Thread: New engine for Defender in 2011?

Originally Posted by dullbird

110 does not have stability control

Yes it does, it's far too scary to drive at high speeds so it isn't an issue

Isn't that part of the reason the Puma is limited to 83mph?? (That and the tyre ratings).

Tim

Originally Posted by solmanic

Remember, everyone laughed at me when I predicted the Defender would win 4x4OTY in 2007. It came second!

Umm. So it didn't win then

Originally Posted by TimNZ

Yes it does, it's far too scary to drive at high speeds so it isn't an issue

Isn't that part of the reason the Puma is limited to 83mph?? (That and the tyre ratings).

Tim

ok so is that what stability control is then a speed limiter? if thats the case then no it doesn't has I have had our 110 up and slightly over 140 which would put that theory to rest as 83mph = 133.5Kph...which would mean my car is not limited surely.

I had actually also heard that the limiters where only on UK vehicles

and tyre rating I would of thought would be irrelevant as you can change your tyres and tyres have different speed ratings.

EDIT:
Safety

The Defender has not yet been tested by NCAP, but with no airbags - that's right - no stability control, basic body-on-chassis architecture and hard surfaces throughout the cabin, the idea of having a crash is not attractive. At least it's very difficult to speed in the Defender.
All seats have three point belts and head restraints, but as a light good vehicle under Australian Design Rules - which also allow it to escape regulatory crash testing requirements - child restraint anchor points are not provided.

Originally Posted by solmanic

Actually I've changed my theory of what's likely to happen...

2014 - Land Rover will change the Defender over to all electric with little, 25kW, hi-torque electric motors on each hub (giving 100kW at the wheels). No gearbox or transfer case or diffs needed - heaps less moving parts. Roof will be all hi-efficiency solar panels able to recharge the gel-battery bank fully in 4 hours. Full charge will be enough to run for 4 hours (highway) or 2hrs off-road thereby giving the car virtually unlimited range when touring. There will be a tiny, 1.1l 3cyl diesel engine mainly to recharge the batteries when there is insufficient sun. This will be able to run as a stand alone generator when touring/camping or for "limp home" if electrics fail or batteries crash. Traction control and engine braking will all be electronically controlled since each wheel has its own motor.

Don't laugh about this... putting a leccy motor into the Defender would be an OK idea i think. Have been doing some forward thinking about this and all of the stuff is al;ready here that you would need.....
Australian Electric Vehicle Assocation inc

Ditch the lump in the front, put motor there connected to normal transmission and then put batterys in any spaces....



Biggest problem would be range....which is typical for any EV really.....

Originally Posted by haggisbasher

Don't laugh about this... putting a leccy motor into the Defender would be an OK idea i think.

Who's laughing? And I was dead serious about this being a three term plus Labour government.

Originally Posted by disco2hse

Umm. So it didn't win then

Quiet you. 2nd is still better than all the other nay-sayers were predicting.

Originally Posted by dullbird

ok so is that what stability control is then a speed limiter? if thats the case then no it doesn't has I have had our 110 up and slightly over 140 which would put that theory to rest as 83mph = 133.5Kph...which would mean my car is not limited surely.

I thought stability control is when they put accelerometers in the vehicle which trigger ABS/TC to cut in as required if the vehicle starts cornering dangerously or skidding. So yes, it doesn't have stability control.

And BTW, that 140kph was on a track somewhere and not on a main road I'm sure you meant to say .

one plus with the motors is the defender would need the upto Puma levels of sound proofing as seen in series, 110 then Defender to Td5.... ie NONE.

As for 3 term labour gvt.... just look at the UK for that... hmmmm

Originally Posted by solmanic

Who's laughing? And I was dead serious about this being a three term plus Labour government.



Quiet you. 2nd is still better than all the other nay-sayers were predicting.



I thought stability control is when they put accelerometers in the vehicle which trigger ABS/TC to cut in as required if the vehicle starts cornering dangerously or skidding. So yes, it doesn't have stability control.

And BTW, that 140kph was on a track somewhere and not on a main road I'm sure you meant to say

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no it was on a road in the northern territory where the limit was 130, I hadn't realised I had crept up to that speed it wasn't intentional and was brought back down as soon as I realised is what I meant to say got nothing to hide here as I always do my best to abide by speed limits.

The only brief danger I caused was to myself as the road was empty.

Originally Posted by dullbird

ok so is that what stability control is then a speed limiter? if thats the case then no it doesn't has I have had our 110 up and slightly over 140 which would put that theory to rest as 83mph = 133.5Kph...which would mean my car is not limited surely.

I had actually also heard that the limiters where only on UK vehicles

and tyre rating I would of thought would be irrelevant as you can change your tyres and tyres have different speed ratings.

Sorry DB, I was being a smart arse about the stability control I didn't realise the Aussie Pumas don't have the speed limiter, I haven't had the opportunity or courage to test it........ yet The Puma certainaly has the torque available in the higher gears to wind some serious speed on, (for a shed that is).

Tim