Thread: Defender Fire & Ice edition

Originally Posted by dullbird

yes mate for 3 months of the year....Europe has seasons unlike oz


as for the ice falling off that happens anyway i dont think it has anything to do with a black roof happens to us in the uk on a white roof so dont see the connection

Ok true but then England is not that cold nor will it get the same weather that northern and north western Europe gets with a annual temperature variation of 60 deg, England at best is pushing only 30-35 deg. Nor would England experience a ground temperature of - 30 and an air temperature (taken at 800mm) of + 20 at the same time.

In England it would be a bit of heat from inside the cab that may melt a bit of snow and I doubt that England could produce a winter sun that could give you a sun tan ( if ever)

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Is it just me who thinks that the grille on the SVXs (and these) is a hideous abomination, and the sidesteps are the most impractical, useless pieces of crud ever invented.

No mate.. it's not just you!

I actually like the over all look of the red one, not so sure about the dash

Originally Posted by clean32

Ok true but then England is not that cold nor will it get the same weather that northern and north western Europe gets with a annual temperature variation of 60 deg, England at best is pushing only 30-35 deg. Nor would England experience a ground temperature of - 30 and an air temperature (taken at 800mm) of + 20 at the same time.

In England it would be a bit of heat from inside the cab that may melt a bit of snow and I doubt that England could produce a winter sun that could give you a sun tan ( if ever)

Sorry I dont get your point....weather its warmth from the sun heating the roof and melting the snow/ice or heat from your cab..

why would that mean that they should not come with a black roof?

IMHO having a black roof means NOTHING yes you get in your car and your aircon takes 30 seconds longer to cool the car on a hot day and perhaps you dont need to put your heater on in the cab to kill someone with Ice because the dreaded black roof will warm up and do that for you

aircons are good these days...I think that is eveidant from the many dark coloured cars on our roads today...I think we need to move on from the 70's

But like I said that is just my opinion

Originally Posted by dullbird

Sorry I dont get your point....weather its warmth from the sun heating the roof and melting the snow/ice or heat from your cab..

In England it would only be the heat from the cab, and this would cool down leaving only a thin layer of ice and a dusting of snow on top. As well as in England the snow is wet ( relative term) add to that England doesn’t get the heavy nightly dumps of snow after very bright hot sunny days where the air temp can drop 40 deg in 40 mints.

Originally Posted by dullbird

why would that mean that they should not come with a black roof?

well in England it wouldn’t matter much, as I have already posted. England is hardly indicative of European weather patterns

Originally Posted by dullbird

IMHO having a black roof means NOTHING yes you get in your car and your aircon takes 30 seconds longer to cool the car on a hot day and perhaps you dont need to put your heater on in the cab to kill someone with Ice because the dreaded black roof will warm up and do that for you

aircons are good these days...I think that is eveidant from the many dark coloured cars on our roads today...I think we need to move on from the 70's

Why are you rabbiting on about aircon?? You have already dismissed this in a previous post and is not part of this conversation

Originally Posted by dullbird

But like I said that is just my opinion

It’s a pity that you didn’t experience a bit more of Europe. Experience tends to underscore opinion.

It’s a pity that you didn’t experience a bit more of Europe. Experience tends to underscore opinion.

you have no idea how much of europe I and my partner have seen clean. Which is your biggest downfall! you assume (I feel) that know one has as much experience as you in anything

I have seen more of Europe than I have my own mother country. But I'm sure you have seen more...


maybe you should take your own advice in your quote above

I like them, they look good in 2 tone.


Apparently they got their inspiration from this forum!
Painting the Series ute.

Yes thats what I heard too Slunnie.....

So what is it for you the white at a guess so you can camo the dog