EV general discussion

"Vehicles that run on batteries accounted for 5.6 percent of new-car sales from April through June, still a small slice of the market but twice the share a year ago, according to Cox Automotive, an industry consulting firm. Overall, new-car sales declined 20 percent.Companies like Tesla, Ford Motor and Volkswagen could have delivered more electric cars if they had been able to build them faster. The carmakers struggled with shortages of semiconductors, which are even more essential to electric cars than to gasoline vehicles, while prices soared for lithium and other raw materials needed for batteries.

“The transformation is real,” said John Lawler, the chief financial officer of Ford, which sold 15,300 electric cars from April through June, a 140 percent increase from a year earlier. “Electric vehicle demand is well beyond what we can supply.”


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I know 4 people trying to buy a EV. None have been able to get one unless waiting until 2023! I know supplies of Land cruiser and such are in a hole and well. The cut and paste above is from N.Y.T.

The ford comment is interesting. The would sell a lot more if they could make more. The trend is pretty Clear. Now if we can have a 1000 mile 4wd heavy tow capacity fast charge/fueling with charging or refilling for BEV or FCEV many more would be in the cue [biggrin]

I note that VW are launching the SEAT Cupra EV.
It seems a weird Decision considering SEAT market share of about zero.

regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

I note that VW are launching the SEAT Cupra EV.
It seems a weird Decision considering SEAT market share of about zero.

regards PhilipA

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Be interesting to watch. Details of it on EV car database

About 20k more than my cheapy and not really anything special I could see compared to the BYD or MG which seem about the same size? Born has max 130 kW max charge rate, it is clearly using current or what I think is old battery tech.

waiting waiting waiting- Landrover 2024[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

"Vehicles that run on batteries accounted for 5.6 percent of new-car sales from April through June, still a small slice of the market but twice the share a year ago, according to Cox Automotive, an industry consulting firm. Overall, new-car sales declined 20 percent.Companies like Tesla, Ford Motor and Volkswagen could have delivered more electric cars if they had been able to build them faster. The carmakers struggled with shortages of semiconductors, which are even more essential to electric cars than to gasoline vehicles, while prices soared for lithium and other raw materials needed for batteries.

“The transformation is real,” said John Lawler, the chief financial officer of Ford, which sold 15,300 electric cars from April through June, a 140 percent increase from a year earlier. “Electric vehicle demand is well beyond what we can supply.”


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I know 4 people trying to buy a EV. None have been able to get one unless waiting until 2023! I know supplies of Land cruiser and such are in a hole and well. The cut and paste above is from N.Y.T.

The ford comment is interesting. The would sell a lot more if they could make more. The trend is pretty Clear. Now if we can have a 1000 mile 4wd heavy tow capacity fast charge/fueling with charging or refilling for BEV or FCEV many more would be in the cue [biggrin]

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No surprises there - even non EV waiting times are nuts - I was recently quoted mid 2024 if I ordered a new Prado today and 'Sometime late 2024 - maybe' - for a new Fortuna. Hybrid Rav4 - forget it, late 2024 if you're lucky but they won't even give an approximate date - you pay you're money then go about your life for more than 2 years then they'll call you. Bonkers...

I had a laugh last night watching Queensland TV news that the Government is installing 48 new chargers.
In the intro they showed a Ford F-150 Lightning as an example of EVs that would benefit.

Regards PhilipA

I'm interested in the practical implications of this discussion at this moment... are any of you currently considering a large car/ 4wd/ tourer purchase, and hesitating regarding an order/ fuel type?

It seems that we're at an uncertain juncture - tantalising progress for smaller EV's, thought still some way away from being offered viable options in the larger car category - particularly which suit Australian touring/ 4wd. Also at a time when a significant ($100K +) petrol/diesel purchase now (and not arriving for 18months) seems a bit of a gamble?

I'm sitting on the fence, with an ageing 110. Should've traded up a few year ago in hindsight, but considering either New Defender or Ineos Grenadier. Not a squeak from either LR or Ineos regarding future models - though I guess this is somewhat understandable, since any reveal will likely collapse their current order book...

New to this discussion, lots to catch up on

Sam

I've been watching the live electricity market over the last 5 or so years.

The morning and evening peaks that put the real strain on have been increasing.

Sure there is increased electricity use at these times, is it down to the installation of splits?

Are there any figures for the number of installations of splits over the last 10 years?

I can't see how everyone getting home from work, turning on the heating or cooling, and then plugging an ev recharge load into the grid is not going to cause a bit of a problem.

DL

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

The major push for EVs is to replace ICEVs for commuting. It seems to me that the use of personal vehicles for most commuting shows shortcomings in public transport. In most cities of any size, most commuting should be by public transport.

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Correct. A good proposal I read of was a central car bay of autonomous vehicles which charge there. You just book one if you need to travel. No garages at houses means extra space! No driveways/more garden… etc…
And perhaps just working from homes anyway- maybe some kind of hub in walking distance?
Be interesting!
Much as I love outback driving I can do without city driving any day…

Autonomous vehicles, except in special situations, are likely to be a long, long, way in the future, throwing a bit of a spanner in the works for this sort of scenario.

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

I've been watching the live electricity market over the last 5 or so years.

The morning and evening peaks that put the real strain on have been increasing.

Sure there is increased electricity use at these times, is it down to the installation of splits?

Are there any figures for the number of installations of splits over the last 10 years?

I can't see how everyone getting home from work, turning on the heating or cooling, and then plugging an ev recharge load into the grid is not going to cause a bit of a problem.

DL

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It will only get worse due to the current push for everyone to move away from gas - not only the massive amount of splits that have been put in but also the switch to electric cooking which is ramping up. I’ll go an induction cooktop in the next year or so when I redo my bench tops in the kitchen then it will only be the instantaneous water heater I have on gas. When that dies it will be an electric booster solar system so within 5 years I’ll be off gas completely in the house.