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Australian households pay highest power prices in world.

Australian residential customers are paying the highest electricity prices in the world - two to three times more than American households - but experts say they need more than information to navigate the thicket of discounts and offers.


South Australian households are paying the highest prices in the world at 47.13¢ per kilowatt hour, more than Germany, Denmark and Italy which heavily tax energy, after the huge increases on July 1, Carbon + Energy Markets' MarkIntell data service says.


South Australia power prices to rise to highest in the world on Saturday, energy expert warns - ABC News

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Originally Posted by Homestar

I have - there's a link to 2017 when we were but now we are at 23 in 2019 and prices have fallen since then.

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In one of our articles from 2017, we reported that Australia was top-ranked for the most expensive electricity prices in the world. But as of September 2019, Australia had 23rd place locked in, as you may see in the table below – a solid feat, all things considered.

The link is to a 2017 report.

And another report here - • Electricity prices by country 2020 | Statista shows we are down the list a bit. Not sure what point you're trying to make or what your interpretation of the data is but happy to hear it.

And a 2019 fact check on a NSW Labor claim that NSW had the highest power prices in the world - Does NSW have the highest power prices in the developed world?

AEMC report shows prices dropping - https://www.aemc.gov.au/sites/defaul...2015122020.pdf

And the pretty little slide show to go with it - https://www.aemc.gov.au/sites/defaul...2015122020.pdf

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According the Australian Energy Market 2017 Residential Electricity Price Trends report, South Australia does indeed have the highest retail prices in the nation. Current prices for the typical SA customer are 37.79c/kWh.


According to that report, the Australian Capital Territory has the lowest retail electricity prices in Australia, at around 23.68 c/kWh.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

Australian households pay highest power prices in world.

Australian residential customers are paying the highest electricity prices in the world - two to three times more than American households - but experts say they need more than information to navigate the thicket of discounts and offers.


South Australian households are paying the highest prices in the world at 47.13¢ per kilowatt hour, more than Germany, Denmark and Italy which heavily tax energy, after the huge increases on July 1, Carbon + Energy Markets' MarkIntell data service says.


South Australia power prices to rise to highest in the world on Saturday, energy expert warns - ABC News

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Again, 2017 reports. Prices have dropped since then - we're in 2021 now - your data is 4 years old.

First website I went to and put in Adelaide as the address gave me under 30 cents. You need to shop around if you're paying 40 plus cents.

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And while I'm not publishing my Electricity bill here just to prove what I'm saying, I pay under 20 cents per KW hour at the moment - down from 4 years ago. I'd suggest you start ringing around for a better deal or move to another state if it worries you that much. :)

EV subsidy, NSW to abolish stamp duty on EV's. NSW is also providing 25,000 rebates worth $3000 each , delaying a road user charge on EV's for six years, or until EV's make up 30% of new vehicle sales. Sounds good, but how far has NSW come with infrastructure for EV's ? I suppose one follows the other.

Electric vehicle subsidy: NSW to provide $3000 EV rebate (thenewdaily.com.au)

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Again, 2017 reports. Prices have dropped since then - we're in 2021 now - your data is 4 years old.

First website I went to and put in Adelaide as the address gave me under 30 cents. You need to shop around if you're paying 40 plus cents.

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And while I'm not publishing my Electricity bill here just to prove what I'm saying, I pay under 20 cents per KW hour at the moment - down from 4 years ago. I'd suggest you start ringing around for a better deal or move to another state if it worries you that much. :)

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prices not dropped here.
in the image, that supply charge is higher than average. whats why.

just chekcing, i think im on 36 cents

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Originally Posted by Eevo

just chekcing, i think im on 36 cents

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ah yes. 36.8.
i can go down to 32.8 bt by feed in tarrif drops to 8 cents

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Originally Posted by Homestar

First website I went to and put in Adelaide as the address gave me under 30 cents. You need to shop around if you're paying 40 plus cents.

Attachment 171738

And while I'm not publishing my Electricity bill here just to prove what I'm saying, I pay under 20 cents per KW hour at the moment - down from 4 years ago. I'd suggest you start ringing around for a better deal or move to another state if it worries you that much. :)

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what website was that? i just looked using the govt compare website, cheapest is 33 cents for SA..


look, all im saying is that electricity is expensive in Australia. your 20 cents per kw hour is 5 times more expensive than china. I'll send you my chinese power bill if you want (crypto mining)

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Originally Posted by bob10

EV subsidy, NSW to abolish stamp duty on EV's. NSW is also providing 25,000 rebates worth $3000 each , delaying a road user charge on EV's for six years, or until EV's make up 30% of new vehicle sales. Sounds good, but how far has NSW come with infrastructure for EV's ? I suppose one follows the other.

Electric vehicle subsidy: NSW to provide $3000 EV rebate (thenewdaily.com.au)

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Well that's miles ahead of what our numtys did down here by just whacking a tax on them for **** and giggles...

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Originally Posted by Eevo

what website was that? i just looked using the govt compare website, cheapest is 33 cents for SA..


look, all im saying is that electricity is expensive in Australia. your 20 cents per kw hour is 5 times more expensive than china. I'll send you my chinese power bill if you want (crypto mining)

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I've got a pic of an article in the Oz from a month or so ago, will post when I can get time to work out how to get the size right.

The article headline is 'Price of electricity the lowest since 2012'.

It goes on to list the state's individual wholesale generator prices for the first quarter of 2021.

NSW $38 / MWh, Vic $25, etc. SA the lowest at MINUS $12 / MWh.

In NSW, for example, $38 / MWh equates to 3.8 cents per KWh. All the rest is cost of distribution and retail................ generally all by entities that were privatised by various states.

AFAIK Vic is the only state that has read the riot act to these entities, confirmed by 2 letters from my retailer (I have 2 smart meters). I'm supposedly going to get lower bills.

I did last time when the Vic gov read the retailers the riot act about default pricing

I have noticed that the practice of pruning of trees under the supply line to chez moi is a bit overdue, as in the past it was always 3 or 4 times a year, 4m from the lines and was always done on a Sat or Sunday................. no trees around here grow that fast in a whole year.

If anyone wants to post up the pic of the article pm me a number and I'll text it. Needs rotation.

cheers, DL

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

It goes on to list the state's individual wholesale generator prices for the first quarter of 2021.

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going by that, SA retail prices should be the cheapest in the nation