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Not in Euroa - the Tesla fast charging station up there is usually around 1/2 full when I’ve seen it a few times this Year. On Saturday only 1 spot free.
Anyway - does get me thinking every time I see it, should I even consider spending $120K on a new diesel Grenadier?!
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Originally Posted by NavyDiver
There's three EV charging stations in the private school parking area across the road from me. Only ever seen one car hooked up so far, although I don't walk past there very often.
And people Forget there is a whole board of directors who are also in charge of the company, and 80k workers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDNSW
Meanwhile people will happily say "I'll never buy a Tesla because of musk". Which is fine. But they will then buy a competing product from another manufacturer and not make any attempt to verify the sanity or otherwise of their board of directors. The problem is someone needs to take Musks phone off him.
No, the problem is Musk is a complete fruit loop and a rip off merchant IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
And the management at BMW/Mercedes/VW were ok with gassing monkeys to prove their diesels didn't kill people. The current CEO of hyundai has been convicted of massive bribery of politicians. Hyundai was ok with dumping ships into poor companies for disposal through whatever means. Let's not mention dieselgate. Are we ok with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
I could go on... The only difference is Musk is a public figure that everyone knows about.
Where did I say I love any of those retards either? Just because you love electric Jesus and have been hoodwinked by his BS it doesn’t mean we all have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Lol. So who are you going to buy a car off? Who are you going to buy anything off? I reckon there is ample dirt on all of them. Including JLR. Who's on the JLR Board? Do you even know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
My point no one actually meaningfully does any investigation about who they are buying stuff from. They just know they hate EM. Meanwhile they buy whatever off all manner of companies blissfully unaware...
Completely illogical.
Meanwhile if it wasn't for Tesla we'd still be looking at the Nissan Leaf saying "no one wants that rubbish.. batteries fail every few years.. range anxiety etc etc". Tesla has materially forced the commencement of electrification of the whole car industry by holding a very large gun at their heads. A good few of them probably won't make it either.
I was going to buy a Subway for lunch? Should I? It turns out that their tuna might not have tuna, and their spokeman had some not very nice allegations against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
I'm pretty hungry? Should I ignore that just this one time? Or now that I know should I shun the business forever? I mean if one of the directors of Tesla does something to twitter in his private life.. I guess I should forever hate on the company of which he is on the board of, with several other people who I don't know anything about? Never mind the 80,000 people that work for Tesla.. are they all evil too?
I mean I don't know if you've noticed, that virtually all companies have a nutcase involved with them somehow.
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What car would I buy? That’s a good question - and after 18 months of looking I actually haven’t found one available new that I like or would buy to be honest.
I have a company car, an old Jag and 2 old Land Rovers and I’m actually looking for a new car to suit my needs (will still be a company car but I’m being allowed to choose something within the set budget) so I actually have been doing a lot of research- not just into the cars but the companies as well.
I wouldn’t buy anything from the VW stable or associated stables due to the arseholedness. I can’t get a Toyota of any description in any reasonable length of time even though that is works preferred choice so they are currently out as well, which sort of leaves me scratching my head a bit to be honest as I can’t seem to find anything that fits the bill.
All that aside I don’t like electric Jesus because more than anything else he’s a straight out lier and deceives people into investing in his nutty ideas - I don’t see and can’t work out for the life of me why anyone supports or likes him - he just makes my skin crawl and rather than you point out anything to the contrary you just say they should take his mobile off him and others are just as bad? Is that the only defence of him there is?
I’d quit while I’m ahead to be honest, if you can assist me with an idea of a vehicle I should buy then I’m all ears.
Requirements are:-
Not a dual cab as I want something comfy to drive and won’t make my kidneys bleed - I haven’t found one yet that I can live with in this regard.
Diesel - as work supplies this from their 30K litre tank so pay lots less than you or I do.
Can tow 2 tonne easily - needs to tow my 1,700kg Van without struggling.
Budget is $80K
At one point it had to be a commercial vehicle but they are moving away from this stipulation now so it opens things up a bit.
As to what I’d buy if it was my money - I just haven’t found a new car I like enough to come up with an answer to that one.
I think a key thing I get from that is the linkage between buying a car and seeing it being supportive of EM. I don't like him but I don't necessarily think buying a Tesla means I support him in anyway. It's kind of like when people say "You ride a bike.. why do you people always...". The answer is just because I ride a bike doesn't mean I'm in any way responsible for the actions of anyone else. Nor do I have insights into why they behave that way. It's called outgroup thinking or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
I worked for years as a Oracle database person. The owner of Oracle, Larry Ellison. Not my kind of person. Probably far worse than EM. At least with EM you know what he's doing. Anyway.. what do you do. Oracle is a big company. Yes probably Ellison got a tiny fraction of the money - but personally I don't see the link. I sure as hell can't be vetting every company to work out whether all the investors in it are above board.
But as this thread is about EV's. I support EV's for applications that are suitable for them. In EV's the only choice you have is Tesla, Hyundai (who are bringing in a handful of cars a year), or one of the Chinese brands which are unknowns in so many ways. There are a few other manufacturers selling adapted ICE cars but that's not my thing.
As to what car you should buy.. no idea. :D Your budget is nearly twice what I paid for my defender.. but you don't get much for that any more. Proper EV replacements for offroad vehicles are likely some years away.