EV general discussion

‘Phase out from 2030’ - so the Brass will have EV’s to hump their fat arses around but I doubt they’ll be retrofitting or building any Tanks or front line equipment as EV’s in my lifetime.

You can just imagine the incessant report if some poor sod is killed because the battery went flat at a critical time.

‘The OEM said it would go 200 miles cross county - the battery went flat after 120 miles while still in enemy territory’. [emoji6]

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Originally Posted by Homestar

‘Phase out from 2030’ - so the Brass will have EV’s to hump their fat arses around but I doubt they’ll be retrofitting or building any Tanks or front line equipment as EV’s in my lifetime.

You can just imagine the incessant report if some poor sod is killed because the battery went flat at a critical time.

‘The OEM said it would go 200 miles cross county - the battery went flat after 120 miles while still in enemy territory’. [emoji6]

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Yes and no. The silent service loved battery for really quiet. (Submarines)

I bet EV bike and off road transport will be army or special forces kit shortly if not already.

Subtle and silent is NOT how current tanks sound[thumbsupbig] "190 Decibels" A 30 cal rifle in WSM might be quieter![biggrin]

Point is once the shooting starts noise is a non issue. Before it starts the silent type is much less likely to be the first target.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSAeBT9wL4Q

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Chatted to a family that owned one in QLD last week. They have not pushed the range at all yet.

I think it was a LDV that got toasted for rusting out a while back? It was a surf club gent driving on the beach to be little fair to that yarn[bigwhistle]

Has anyone posted on the Australian gov ev policy? "Federal government passes EV incentive bill

THE Australian federal government has passed its Treasury Laws Amendment (Electric Car Discount) Bill, which will provide up to $2000 off the purchase price of battery electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles, as well as fringe benefits tax (FBT) exemptions for fleets and novated leases.

Discounts apply to electric vehicles (EV) and plug-in hybrid vehicles (PHEV) that retail below the luxury car tax (LCT) threshold of $84,916 and are offered in addition to other state and territory incentives.

Electric vehicles will also be prioritised in government fleet purchasing decisions to both reduce government transport emissions and provide more electric cars to the used market.

The Bill passed the Senate with 31 votes against 24 after a deal was struck between Labor, Greens and independent Senator David Pocock.

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Whoops thats last years[bigwhistle]


"A fuel efficiency standard is coming, but there may be a delay in driving cheaper electric vehicles to Australia[bigwhistle]

" A fuel efficiency standard is coming, but there may be a delay in driving cheaper electric vehicles to Australia - ABC News

That is going to upset the dumping of old tech to Australia perhaps?

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For people in a job where they can salary sacrifice - the EV FBT discount thing is a really big incentive. A friend has a BYD he's going to pick up, and I think it's costing him 8k a year all up over three years. What a deal!

Dooh Nibor riding through Canberra. Dooh Nibor Door Nibor with his merry executives.
Sung to tune of Robin Hood.

Regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by Homestar

‘Phase out from 2030’ - so the Brass will have EV’s to hump their fat arses around but I doubt they’ll be retrofitting or building any Tanks or front line equipment as EV’s in my lifetime.

You can just imagine the incessant report if some poor sod is killed because the battery went flat at a critical time.

‘The OEM said it would go 200 miles cross county - the battery went flat after 120 miles while still in enemy territory’. [emoji6]

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Got to chat with some "Brass" today during/after the Melbourne ANZAC march. Interestingly I was correct on some of my guesses.
Very pleased to note a name or two in technology I follow closely is on drawing board.


Sadly a few less able to march now. That happens every year of course as change is inevitable in several areas of our lives.

Lest We Forget
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.pD3akP...id=ImgDet&rs=1

i read today that break even for a five-year total cost of ownership for a tesla Mod 3 and Toyota corolla[bigwhistle]

Now data "According to the available data, all three OEMs improved their results year-over-year. However, only Tesla set a new quarterly record (422,875), while BYD (264,647) and Volkswagen Group (140,852) noted a result lower than in Q4 2022 (VW Group is actually slightly behind Q3 2022).
BYD improved its sales by 85 percent, which is significantly more than Tesla (36 percent), although it remains around 160,000 units behind Tesla, just like a year ago. The key is that the difference is now relatively smaller than in Q1 2022. If Tesla wants to remain the top player in the long term, it must grow faster."

I did briefly consider a Tesla Model y with a 1.5t towing capacity then I recalled a Diving Hero and thought NOT a Chance[bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Yes and no. The silent service loved battery for really quiet. (Submarines)

I bet EV bike and off road transport will be army or special forces kit shortly if not already....

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I have suspected that for a long time, and also that electric outboard boat motors play a big part in covert raids.

Our very quiet O boats beat me every time[bigwhistle]Note report today we cannot keep more than one of the current hybrid subs at sea[bighmmm]

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Claims of almost 1000km might get a few interested IF they ever get to Australia of course

2023 NIO ES8 and EC7 revealed - carsales.com.au
The EC7 has up to 584 miles of CLTC range.

Deliveries of NIO's coupe-style SUV, the EC7, have officially commenced. For now the EC7 is only on sale in China, however it's expected to make it over to Europe in just a few months time. The luxury SUV is one of the most aerodynamic vehicles on sale, with a drag coefficient of just 0.23 Cd.The EC7 is available with a choice of either a 75 kWh, 100 kWh, or 150 kWh battery pack. The CLTC ranges for each are 304 miles, 395 miles, and 584 miles respectively. Bear in mind CLTC figures are usually 30-40% higher than EPA ranges.


"The drag coefficient is slipperier than the Tesla Model X, prompting NIO to claim that it’s the world’s most aerodynamic SUV at 0.23Cd."

It just might get here?

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Australian under study

As carsales has reported, NIO senior management made it clear at last year’s NIO Day that Australia is among its targets with its global expansion plan.
It’s not yet clear whether an Aussie tilt would be made through a factory distribution channel or an independent importer.
However, BLK Auto – which is the company behind the JAC Motors relaunch Down Under – said recently that it “100 per cent would be there” if it had the opportunity to pick up NIO, which has a manufacturing joint-venture with JAC.

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Most EV batteries have a specific energy of under 300Wh/kg.
CATL says its new battery almost doubles that figure, with a specific energy of 500Wh/kg

End 2023? Hope so. Details are a bit thin! Is is not that much better than the Model Y battery. I assume it is not a Solid State battery!


CATL unveils battery that may power electric airplanes and 1000km-range EVs - ABC News

Watching what China is up to with EV’s is certainly interesting.

BYD have a new “Defender look-a-like” Hybrid that has 880kW and 1280Nm on tap. It has one electric motor per wheel and it’s party trick is being able to do 360 degree turns on the spot like an army tank.

BYD YangWang U8 with 1,180 HP spotted on the trailer in China. Deliveries to start in September

BYD YangWang U8 performs full 360° tank turn in desert - YouTube

It also floats on water!

BYD Yangwang U8 Hardcore Off-road SUV Amazing Features English Subtitle 4K - YouTube