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28th July 2023, 10:02 AM
NavyDiver

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Originally Posted by Homestar

I don’t think any Australian government would have the balls to force a car off the roads or even legislate to make it harder to keep them on the road. Australians have a live of the Automobile they’ll die to protect.

Remember when they just wanted motor cycles to have their headlights on when being ridden - I think when Jeff Kennett held the reigns - even he backed off when the lobby groups assembled and the **** hit the fan.

Imagine if someone was brave enough to come out and say ‘You’ve got 5 years before you have to have an EV’ or even ‘cars older than 10 years will start incurring higher rego fees’

They’d be a public hanging…

Your right - cost will be a major factor regardless for many.

Just did a WOW. "Victoria bans new homes from connecting to gas: announcement from state government Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio (afr.com)"

I understand the cost and impacts of methane. Was not expecting a ban! [bigwhistle]
28th July 2023, 02:15 PM
DiscoDB

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Your right - cost will be a major factor regardless for many.

Just did a WOW. "Victoria bans new homes from connecting to gas: announcement from state government Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio (afr.com)"

I understand the cost and impacts of methane. Was not expecting a ban! [bigwhistle]

This is Victoria……nothing surprises me.

As a reminder, make sure you get your $250 just for visiting the Victorian Energy Compare website. Round 2 is open until end of August.
29th July 2023, 07:16 AM
Captain_Rightfoot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homestar

I don’t think any Australian government would have the balls to force a car off the roads or even legislate to make it harder to keep them on the road. Australians have a live of the Automobile they’ll die to protect.

Remember when they just wanted motor cycles to have their headlights on when being ridden - I think when Jeff Kennett held the reigns - even he backed off when the lobby groups assembled and the **** hit the fan.

Imagine if someone was brave enough to come out and say ‘You’ve got 5 years before you have to have an EV’ or even ‘cars older than 10 years will start incurring higher rego fees’

They’d be a public hanging…

It's been done before. Will be a "Cash for clunkers" type thing. No one will force you to get rid of your ICE car, but they might give you a $$$$ incentive for a new one if they can crush your old one. I can't see it happening for several years, but I'm pretty confident it's going to be one of the measures they will use to incentivise people. ICE cars being sold right now will likely partake in the scheme.

Personally I don't think they'll have to push very hard. Once EV's are available at good prices and with many choices, the carging network matures, and people actually understand how they work I think people will naturally migrate to them. The only people who will continue to run ICE vehicles will be people who have a need with a genuine EV-ICE capability gap and can afford the cost premium to run an ICE vehicle.

One sample from Aus but I'm sure it's happened multiple times. Plus many places around the world.

New Cash-for-clunkers Pilot Scheme Announced For Victoria, Australia - Auto Recycling World
29th July 2023, 05:15 PM
Tote

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

It's been done before. Will be a "Cash for clunkers" type thing. No one will force you to get rid of your ICE car, but they might give you a $$$$ incentive for a new one if they can crush your old one. I can't see it happening for several years, but I'm pretty confident it's going to be one of the measures they will use to incentivise people. ICE cars being sold right now will likely partake in the scheme.

Personally I don't think they'll have to push very hard. Once EV's are available at good prices and with many choices, the carging network matures, and people actually understand how they work I think people will naturally migrate to them. The only people who will continue to run ICE vehicles will be people who have a need with a genuine EV-ICE capability gap and can afford the cost premium to run an ICE vehicle.

One sample from Aus but I'm sure it's happened multiple times. Plus many places around the world.

New Cash-for-clunkers Pilot Scheme Announced For Victoria, Australia - Auto Recycling World

I wonder if they had schemes to pay you money to eat your horse in the 1930s ? [biggrin]

Regards,
Tote
29th July 2023, 06:38 PM
DiscoDB

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Originally Posted by Tote

I wonder if they had schemes to pay you money to eat your horse in the 1930s ? [biggrin]

Regards,
Tote

They did - it was called the Great Depression. [emoji849]
29th July 2023, 08:01 PM
Homestar

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

They did - it was called the Great Depression. [emoji849]

The thought of having to drive an EV gives me Great Depression. [emoji56]
29th July 2023, 08:15 PM
NavyDiver

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Originally Posted by Homestar

The thought of having to drive an EV gives me Great Depression. [emoji56]

Have to try it perhaps before you dish it? Each to their own of course! Time for a coffee some time and a quiet drive[thumbsupbig]

Noted the Electric Jesus (loved that and borrowed forever with thanks[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin])

Cheated and has range shown well over what range was possible news!!

My MG has the same lie or malfunction. That Electric Jesus knew is interesting[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

My range display is under quoted if driven at 40kph avg and massively under quoted at 100kph 250 ish is about 200km!

I guess IF I wanted my money back I could have been grumpy [biggrin]

Electric Jesus might have a few billion to pay for his fibs????
29th July 2023, 08:20 PM
Homestar

I’ve driven quite a few, they go great, but the thought of having to live with one isn’t so great.
29th July 2023, 08:37 PM
TonyC

Underwater EV

So, will the electric Land Cruiser make it across Darwin Harbour?

'''Rust bucket''' 1978 LandCruiser converted to EV to drive 7km under water across Darwin Harbour — again - ABC News

Were the diesel one failed 35 years ago

How a car drove across the sea floor of Darwin Harbour 35 years ago - ABC News

Will this prove EVs are better off road 😉
29th July 2023, 08:40 PM
NavyDiver

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Originally Posted by TonyC

So, will the electric Land Cruiser make it across Darwin Harbour?

'''Rust bucket''' 1978 LandCruiser converted to EV to drive 7km under water across Darwin Harbour — again - ABC News

Were the diesel one failed 35 years ago

How a car drove across the sea floor of Darwin Harbour 35 years ago - ABC News

Will this prove EVs are better off road 😉

I'd still take a o- boat[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

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