EV general discussion

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Originally Posted by scarry

Pretty simple,all to do with weight.


Electric Vehicles And The Impact On Infrastructure

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It is all about weight[thumbsupbig] The my gold d3 (RIP[bawl]) was 2.3 tonnes+ With steel bars, Winch, long range tank, side sliders and bits included. Current EV is well under 1/2 that and it is a stupid front wheel drive[bigwhistle] Not for much longer[thumbsupbig]

I am NOT an expert.

Looks about < a 1mm wear difference to the front wheels compared to the back tyre. 50,000 odd km on them much of which was at highway speeds.
Attachment 186756Attachment 186757Attachment 186758 Perelli Primacy bit is interesting as google show that as another Brand?

I have no problem paying my way. It is clear to some that many do not pay the real cost!
Yes I am stirring the POT [biggrin]

Have a great day all

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Originally Posted by scarry

Pretty simple,all to do with weight.


Electric Vehicles And The Impact On Infrastructure

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It's not all weight related. There's also an issue with non 4wd vehicles and regenerative braking.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

It is all about weight[thumbsupbig] The my gold d3 (RIP[bawl]) was 2.3 tonnes+ With steel bars, Winch, long range tank, side sliders and bits included.
Have a great day all

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That is a light D3,my D4 weighed 2.85T,me,bar,dualbattery,full tank,BFG's,couple of other things in it.
The LC is3.15T,lots more fuel,same accessories,sort of,including fridge.
Tyre wear on the LC is less than the D4,same type,same brand,similar size.
Maybe the D4 IS on all corners didn't do the wear any favours,but i have no idea,nor do i really care[biggrin]

Tyre wear on black top, long highway runs, is always a lot less than around town.

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Originally Posted by BradC

It's not all weight related. There's also an issue with non 4wd vehicles and regenerative braking.

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Brad I LOVE regenerative braking!!!

One of the Best technical parts of EV in my thoughts. Running up and down hills in shoes a lot here. Up is tough at 10 to 15 kph. I use a lot less energy coming down at even faster speeds ( Sorry Swearing about exercising again) [bigrolf] It is regen in some ways.

I appreciate its not power back in a battery more energy conservation when running or driving down hills. In the EV at the speed limit coming down several long inclines here the car suggest I am getting back a good deal of energy for free.

The interesting part of how much was mentioned by a Gent who made his MG one pedal driving like another brand and added a higher level of Regeneration. The Limit was how much power charge the battery could take.

If newer tech or super capacitor was used where that was not a problem I think the need to brake could be removed entirely by regenerative braking Brad.

We are not there yet! FYI Ampol seems to be rocking on EV and Hydrogen!

The Hydrogen role out news was this morning and I lost it of course[biggrin]

Look at about minute 4. The cable weight is clear in the video. Not that much for most of us. My mum would not be able to. Not that she is much good at any servo now.

I did find some thing similar near Euroa

Chargefox
hargefox Charging Station
Electric vehicle charging station
Freeway Service Centre Euroa
167 Tarcombe St Open 24 hours
CHAdeMO·350.0 kW - Total 2
CCS·350.0 kW - Total 2
CHAdeMO·50.0 kW - Total 2
CCS·50.0 kW - Total 2
My rotten phone service did not work. I had to call Charge fox to get some power that day [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

https://youtu.be/5wkkAg_lwqs'si=Y8271FA5fUrtwgEV

1hr 39 minutes at Goulburn Charger.
longest coffee break in history!
Regard PhilipA

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Brad I LOVE regenerative braking!!!

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I'm not knocking it, I'm simply suggesting that a normal ICE based vehicle applies braking force in various proportions to all wheels under most circumstances, and a 2WD EV tends to lean on the driven wheels for regen. That means more wear on those tyres and consequential wear on the road surface. For a 4wd then all bets are off depending on how the diffs are configured.

Frankly I don't give a crap what anyone drives, but anybody saying EVs have the same wear pattern on a road as an ICE needs a quick chat with Sir Isaac Newton.

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Originally Posted by scarry

I suppose a guy that has worked in the tyre industry for over 45 years,and had his own tyre shops,wouldn't know much about tyres..[tonguewink]



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Stupid is as stupid does. No amount of years fitting tyres can make someone smarter.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

https://youtu.be/5wkkAg_lwqs'si=Y8271FA5fUrtwgEV

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When did a 3 and a bit hour drive become a road trip? I often do that sort of distance and back in a day for work to see a customer.

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Originally Posted by akelly

Stupid is as stupid does. No amount of years fitting tyres can make someone smarter.

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If someone worked for 45 years fitting tyres then there I'd begin to wonder about ones purpose in the universe. [bigwhistle]

https://www.drive.com.au/news/hydrog...vice-stations/

Now we just need the Hydrogen to be made by electrolysis with renewable energy rather than using steam methane reformation.

A long way to go but a start.