EV general discussion

A bit of a wake up call in the colder parts of the USA at the moment - Electric vehicle owners face huge challenges amid Chicago cold snap – NBC Chicago

And so much for 'cheaper to run' - https://www.drive.com.au/news/evie-h...o-40-per-cent/ Using a 150KW charger would now be the same price as running something like a Mazda 3 or equivalent - except the EV costs twice as much to start with so those needing to use public charging aren't clawing back any of the purchase cost any more. Something the EV brigade were touting as one of the biggest benefits... [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by Homestar

And so much for 'cheaper to run'

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On the news last night. A media organisation got two 7 series BMWs, a EV and a petrol. Both all fuelled/charged up.

Then started from Melbourne and drove to Sydney.

The ICE BMW used $119 of 98 octane and the EV BMW used $132 of fast charging and took over 2 hours longer than the ICE to complete the journey. Some chargers were out of order but no petrol pumps were.

Conclusion - EVs might be great around town but are still not the cost and time effective option for intra/inter state travel.

Even if you wanted to the options aren't looking any better than they were some time ago and now Chargepoint are shutting down their chargers in Australia - https://www.drive.com.au/news/us-own...-on-australia/

And Tritium are pulling out of manufacturing in Australia now that subsidies have dried up - Tritium: Electric vehicle charging company battles to keep its operations in Brisbane

Someone show me some good news on the EV front - it all seems to be turning to **** everywhere.

And more

LOL, Tesla Charging Station In Chicago Becomes A Graveyard Due To Freezing Temperatures

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Actually, GPS isn't particularly accurate about speed across the ground - someone on a speeding charge in the UK tried that a few years back and the court didn't accept it.

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A bit ambiguous without the rest of the story. With a clear veiw of at least 3 satellites, the update is measured in milliseconds, even without an augumented signal. (DGPS) If you are inside a tunnel all bets are off!

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

On the news last night. A media organisation got two 7 series BMWs, a EV and a petrol. Both all fuelled/charged up.

Then started from Melbourne and drove to Sydney.

The ICE BMW used $119 of 98 octane and the EV BMW used $132 of fast charging and took over 2 hours longer than the ICE to complete the journey. Some chargers were out of order but no petrol pumps were.

Conclusion - EVs might be great around town but are still not the cost and time effective option for intra/inter state travel.

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Call it for crap myself ". It took just under 1 hour and 10 minutes for the i7 to get from 2 per cent through to 100 per cent. I could have pulled it off the charger early, but didn’t want to run the risk of running out of battery."

At 80% it would have been 1/2 that time and enough for the drive to Melbourne[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle] Not suggesting its quick with the current tech batteries.

No way I would want a almost 3 tonne car again[thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig]

Too cold to charge?

"Uranium Payable metal in concentrate t 943 833 813 825 986 1,811 1,760 3% 1,127 683 1,275 481 895 1,376 1,399 (2)%" whoops thats BHP

Try

"As temperatures in this Chicago suburb plummeted to under zero this week for the first time in ages, the situation seemed to have become dire, with owners having to tow their Teslas out on flatbeds because chargers weren’t working, and their EVs had run out of juice. The TV station didn't mince words: “Public charging stations have turned into car graveyards,” reporters said, while calling depleted EVs “dead robots.” A barrage of similar stories emerged out of this report, with several major publications echoing this voice."

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All through the North of the USA and also Canada are finding this out at the moment. A work colleague used to live in Canada and his friends there have been sending him pics of dead Teslas all over the place and charging stations full of them. Tow trucks are working overtime moving them about.

I bet there’s gunna be a quite a few for sale shortly and the second hand market will be flooded with them.

All hail our electric future! 🤣

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Originally Posted by Homestar

All through the North of the USA and also Canada are finding this out at the moment. A work colleague used to live in Canada and his friends there have been sending him pics of dead Teslas all over the place and charging stations full of them. Tow trucks are working overtime moving them about.

I bet there’s gunna be a quite a few for sale shortly and the second hand market will be flooded with them.

All hail our electric future! 🤣

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No fuel in Kalgoorlie, Coolgardie, as tens of thousands of customers remain without power across WA's Goldfields, Wheatbelt


Not sure if EVs or ICE work with no power[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin] Hand pumps and jerry cans excluded [thumbsupbig]

At least ICE vehicle operate in cold climates - something the owners of EV’s should have been warned about - is there anything in the fine print saying charging may be difficult in cold weather?

I really think the concept has taken a hit up North in the USA - will be interesting to see EV sales figures in those States in the coming year.