EV general discussion

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Originally Posted by scarry;[URL="tel:3212232"

3212232[/URL]]Audi puts big EV push on the back burner | Electrek

Ford US is doing the same

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They’ll go broke if they don’t. New car sales are already in freefall in the US as Middle America can’t afford the ordinary ones, let alone the much higher priced EV.

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Originally Posted by Homestar;[URL="tel:3212236"

3212236[/URL]]Looking at this objectively the report that it started at the back of the house and the car wasn't in the garage doesn't look credible but at the same time there's nothing to show that an EV started the fire.

I find this guy is a little too anti EV for me to be honest but I'll give him credit for not stating he thought it was an EV fire but he does insinuate this. Based on the circumstantial evidence it does look to be the case but there's no way of knowing if the car set the garage alight or the other way around.

I can't see a reason other than the EV being to blame for trying to divert attention away from it though - that just brings more attention.

Regardless of this I wouldn't charge an EV in a garage the same as I wouldn't put a home battery setup in my garage. Having said that I don't even charge my power tool batteries unless I'm home and I do that on a steel bench on a concrete floor. I don't even leave anything turned on at the power point switch either apart from the fridge and the Foxtel box.

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Yes, he’s far more anti than, say, me. But he’s on a plane with me about net zero.

you’re dead right about how the silly attempts at deflection only serve to make people suspicious. That stuff used to work when we only had the MSM for information. Seems like some people still do.
I don’t pretend to have anything like your knowledge of electrical systems. I was interested in your approach to charging tools. I might just adopt it myself.

I guess it's like Janus saying that a single battery caused the fire in the Cement truck.
Well, yes but. The truck was totally destroyed by the resulting runaway.
Regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by Tins

If you read the post and Tombie's post before it that should be bloody obvious. I'm paying for YOUR choices. People will have to pay so you can supercharge your EV on the Nullabor. Nobody subsidises BP to run a fuel station out there. They built them because the market demanded them. And once built, they don't need subsidies to run them. They only need the roads to enable supply, not bloody great HT towers. Oh, that's right, your EV doesn't pay for the roads either; but my Disco does. You want everything but expect to pay for nothing.



None of that would be necessary at all if the Western Governments just left the market alone. Fossil fuels have never needed subsidies until James Hansen, Michael Mann and Al Gore became rich.

There is no business case for EVs or "renewables" without subsidy.

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Nobody gets to choose where their tax dollars go, it is all for the "greater good".

Solar panels are the cheapest way of producing electricity, especially in sunny Australia which is why no one is building coal fired power stations here. They are so cheap that even if one wants to maximize the solar harvested by building tracking panels it is cheaper to just put in more panels, so says Saul Griffith who invented such a tracking system amongst many other patents he holds. You can listen to the free pod cast of his book read for you by legendary Australians here...The Big Switch Audio Edition (rewiringaustralia.org)

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Originally Posted by scarry

Audi puts big EV push on the back burner | Electrek

Ford US is doing the same

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I see your car maker's going on the back burner and raise you a whole country going on the front foot....Canada says all cars and trucks must be zero-emission by 2035, leaving the auto industry unhappy - ABC News I think a lot of Ford USA components are made in Canada since the old NAFTA days and the zero-emission push is to give manufacturers certainty in the EV market.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I see your car maker's going on the back burner and raise you a whole country going on the front foot....Canada says all cars and trucks must be zero-emission by 2035, leaving the auto industry unhappy - ABC News I think a lot of Ford USA components are made in Canada since the old NAFTA days and the zero-emission push is to give manufacturers certainty in the EV market.

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That’s the same country that will gaol you for telling your kid they aren’t transgender under child abuse. The same country that’s so “woke” it’s unbelievable.

I wouldn’t put any stock in their government- they’ve lost the plot on many things and this is just posturing.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

That’s the same country that will gaol you for telling your kid they aren’t transgender under child abuse. The same country that’s so “woke” it’s unbelievable.

I wouldn’t put any stock in their government- they’ve lost the plot on many things and this is just posturing.

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You could be right as from the same article I quoted "Canada has missed every emissions-reduction target it has ever set.Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says fighting climate change is one of his Liberal government's top priorities.
The country's environment commissioner last month said the government's emissions-reduction plan was flawed and would not reach the target of cutting greenhouse gas output by 40 to 45 per cent below the 2005 level by 2030."

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER;[URL="tel:3212293"

3212293[/URL]]I see your car maker's going on the back burner and raise you a whole country going on the front foot....Canada says all cars and trucks must be zero-emission by 2035, leaving the auto industry unhappy - ABC News I think a lot of Ford USA components are made in Canada since the old NAFTA days and the zero-emission push is to give manufacturers certainty in the EV market.

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Are you seriously holding Canada up as a shining example of the way forward ?

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER;[URL="tel:3212292"

3212292[/URL]]Nobody gets to choose where their tax dollars go, it is all for the "greater good".

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Yes we do. They call them “elections “, and we have them periodically. You may have noticed a few interesting results overseas recently.

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Solar panels are the cheapest way of producing electricity, especially in sunny Australia which is why no one is building coal fired power stations here. They are so cheap that even if one wants to maximize the solar harvested by building tracking panels it is cheaper to just put in more panels, so says Saul Griffith who invented such a tracking system amongst many other patents he holds. You can listen to the free pod cast of his book read for you by legendary Australians here...The Big Switch Audio Edition (rewiringaustralia.org)

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Nobody is building coal powered generators in this country because legislators have made it uneconomic to do so. Legislators can change.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

The country's environment commissioner last month said the government's emissions-reduction plan was flawed and would not reach the target of cutting greenhouse gas output by 40 to 45 per cent below the 2005 level by 2030."

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I bet this is the same for most Governments and countries around the world,with emission reduction targets.

Noting some are probably experts at fudging figures.