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A good article on how China has managed to dominate the EV market. As with all things in China, it started decades ago and was well thought out in advance.

And Tesla’s rise is intertwined in this story. Some would say it has been a symbiotic relationship.

How did China come to dominate the world of electric cars? | MIT Technology Review

The whole China thing is a perfect example of how subsidies distort markets. An extreme one, I grant you, but nevertheless. Governments of any stripe have many, many things they should be doing. Manipulating markets isn't one of them. They demonstrate over and over again that they are no good at it.

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Originally Posted by TonyC

My thoughts exactly.
I did seriously price out out a Westfield many moons ago, now I would just buy a MX5.
Or I could get the Hafinger registered again, for that open air motoring feel 🙂 Not to mention getting attention 😇

Tony

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Gotta love Haffies. Bloke I know has two beautifully restored Pinzgauer 6x6. They get attention as well.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

A good article on how China has managed to dominate the EV market. As with all things in China, it started decades ago and was well thought out in advance.

And Tesla’s rise is intertwined in this story. Some would say it has been a symbiotic relationship.

How did China come to dominate the world of electric cars? | MIT Technology Review

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IOW, the same way they came to dominate every other market. Subsidies, underpaid labour, and the manufacturing scale made possible by the vast population wanting to join the affluent West ( good luck with that if you are a poor Chinese ). Plus a reputation for ruthlessness in business.

Have to wonder if it will last. Big companies are withdrawing. Well, appearing to. Even thick skinned Apple doesn't enjoy the "sweat shop" accusations.

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Originally Posted by Tins

Gotta love Haffies. Bloke I know has two beautifully restored Pinzgauer 6x6. They get attention as well.

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He also has 2 Haffies, one LWB, one SWB and a P38A.

Tony

Apologies for sidetracking the EV thread😇

I know some of you don't really like Sky News,but this is interesting.
Without the $20M subsidy,i suppose they wouldn't be here.

New electric truck fleet under scrutiny - YouTube

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Charging is a interesting evolution. This might be a LOOK AT ME story for a company!

"Researchers say the new tech is 8-10 times more power-dense than conventional wireless charging coils.

Imagine pulling up in a garage or parking lot in your nearly depleted EV, and having no pesky charging cables to fiddle with, no payment systems to navigate, and no charging apps to download. Just park and walk away. Researchers are taking wireless charging seriously, and one U.S. lab has achieved a breakthrough: 96% efficiency in a 100kW wireless charging test."

https://youtu.be/hozLKumo3Kw'si=8-2PCc_WB8YDVLGI

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I’ll call BS on the 96% efficiency for the wireless charging - I’ll wait for some independent testing before I believe they have anything close.

Also, I don't want to know how strong of an electric field you need to produce to get that much power across. People with pacemakers better not be near it.

-P

China has a huge fleet of electric buses and have been using a charging system called "opportunity" charging stations. Some of them are using wireless under the floor equipment, some retractable pentgraphs, at each stop and starting point.
Not sure about their super capacitors though!

China takes the lead in adopting the all-electric bus equipped with supercapacitors. — Electronic Components Franchised Distributor - Military Certified Manufacturer | ES Components

They'll be harnessing lightning next.