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If possible, the EU is even more corrupt than the UN. And the member states are looking wistfully at the life they had before Brussels went mad. Net Zero is collapsing, but the ABC won't tell you that. Just like the BBC, they are no longer to be trusted.

Well one thing seems obvious today as I had lunch at Avoca Beach. There were two ships waiting offshore of Avoca Beach for entry into Newcastle with say an estimated 20 or so North of them, Maybe more.. maybe some to the south but I couldn't see .
The Chinese are sure buying our coal.
Regards PhilipA

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The Chinese are sure buying our coal.

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Without coal sales,QLD would be broke.

I worked at Hay pt,just south of Mackay,quite a few years ago.
The set up loading Coal onto carriers was amazing,even in those days.
The plant ran 24/7.

The whole country would be broke without coal. Those bucket wheel coal loaders can bury a pyramid in a day.

All this being said, the stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones, something better came along.

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The Chinese are sure buying our coal.

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Still the easiest and quickest way to turn Iron into Steel.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

All this being said, the stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones, something better came along.

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Yes, but it wasn't lithium or solar panels.

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Still the easiest and quickest way to turn Iron into Steel.

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And long dead trees into warmth and cooking for those who don't have it, which could be us if we keep going down this path.

I remember thinking about this when the cry was Stop Adani. The coal from Adani would fuel India and Africa, but why should they get what we have? I'm all right, Jack.

Coal is just solar power stored via photosynthesis so why not cut out the bit in the middle and use the solar straight out of the panels. Speaking of cutting out steps Africa and India can cut out all the generation and transmission infrastructure and just use the power where it is produced by wind and solar on site. Just like in parts of the world where people skipped the bronze age and went straight to the iron age from the stone age. I have no doubt that there were naysayers saying it's too dangerous to produce tools using fire for melting metal instead of just chipping away at rocks.

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Without coal sales,QLD would be broke.

I worked at Hay pt,just south of Mackay,quite a few years ago.
The set up loading Coal onto carriers was amazing,even in those days.
The plant ran 24/7.

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They say Russia is a gas station with nukes.

I follow a site where one of the economists calls himself "Houses and Holes". And it's true. All the manufacturing has been long lost.

I sure hope we can restructure to be more than this.

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Coal is just solar power stored via photosynthesis so why not cut out the bit in the middle and use the solar straight out of the panels. Speaking of cutting out steps Africa and India can cut out all the generation and transmission infrastructure and just use the power where it is produced by wind and solar on site. Just like in parts of the world where people skipped the bronze age and went straight to the iron age from the stone age. I have no doubt that there were naysayers saying it's too dangerous to produce tools using fire for melting metal instead of just chipping away at rocks.

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Even assuming I'm not running off power from my roof, my EV's are the only cars in this thread that run off power made in the same state it's consumed. [thumbsupbig]