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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    It doesn’t say anywhere what the new tech is that will make them so much cheaper - it’s like saying ‘If you step on a nail it could hurt’.
    "cheaper petrol vehicles could increase uptake" would be accurate too. most consumer goods being cheaper leads to increased uptake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    "cheaper petrol vehicles could increase uptake" would be accurate too. most consumer goods being cheaper leads to increased uptake...
    Happy to bet cheap petrol will be dumped on the Australian market over the next few years as the big markets. US, China, EU all phase them out. We are a tiny goldfish bowl in that market place.

    I had planned to get my Disco out for a run with Mario for a Fish this weekend. Bloody Covid may shut that idea down in the next twenty minutes.

    I may become a dumper if I cannot refit my Disco. I need it capability- Still hoping a refit to a long range water-oxygen only emitting will be possible. My watch list in the space has Toyota for its Mirai engine which is popping up in race cars, boats trains and trucks. Korea is tossing several about in Trucks, buses and more. Plug power, Ballard, Toyota, Cummings, Bloom Energy, ITM power and others. Waiting of course for supply and proof is a sensible idea.

    time to see the mess for fishing, work and kids here in Vic. Only sad one I already know is I still get to work when everyone else might be locked up

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    Would you trust an electric boat engine EV general discussion

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    I notice Land Rover is building a battery plant in England and says there will be EV versions of all its vehicles by late this decade, in addition to the existing hybrid package.
    We will continue to get outdated versions of vehicles here until we adopt Euro6 fuel standards. Or we will simply not be sent the latest vehicles at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Happy to bet cheap petrol will be dumped on the Australian market over the next few years as the big markets. US, China, EU all phase them out. We are a tiny goldfish bowl in that market place.

    I had planned to get my Disco out for a run with Mario for a Fish this weekend. Bloody Covid may shut that idea down in the next twenty minutes.

    I may become a dumper if I cannot refit my Disco. I need it capability- Still hoping a refit to a long range water-oxygen only emitting will be possible. My watch list in the space has Toyota for its Mirai engine which is popping up in race cars, boats trains and trucks. Korea is tossing several about in Trucks, buses and more. Plug power, Ballard, Toyota, Cummings, Bloom Energy, ITM power and others. Waiting of course for supply and proof is a sensible idea.

    time to see the mess for fishing, work and kids here in Vic. Only sad one I already know is I still get to work when everyone else might be locked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I notice Land Rover is building a battery plant in England and says there will be EV versions of all its vehicles by late this decade, in addition to the existing hybrid package.
    We will continue to get outdated versions of vehicles here until we adopt Euro6 fuel standards. Or we will simply not be sent the latest vehicles at all.
    Yep. We already miss out on a heap of new vehicles

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    this might be interesting EV or not. Not a stock recommendation!

    "
    • Hyzon Motors has developed an eAxle with up to 97% motor-to-wheel efficiency, reducing loss by up to 40%
    • The new eAxle achieves world-class performance through innovations in the gear system, differential and motor integration
    • The company’s next generation aerodynamic class 8 trucks outfitted with these eAxles target 950kW peak power and a 19.7 mpge at full load over the CARB HHDDT drive cycle

    eliminates right-angle hypoid gears
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    I had to google hypoid The negatives include
    • Complex design.
    • Lower efficiency level than planetary gearbox.
    • Not suitable for fast speeds.



    Like the sound of this from a company I am following- D.Y.O.R. and not financial or medical advice Link if interested in hypoid bits

    Of interest to Paten fights??? I found Smesh "Did you know that in practise at least 70% of the energy is lost in the powertrain of a diesel truck, before it even reaches the wheels?"

    Have to check with the truck drivers about the efficiency claims. No power train from engine to axles would get rid of a lot of weight and power losses.



    This one might be even better as BOSCH is a big component supplier we all know of - Down scale this and E-disco is a go


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Would you trust an electric boat engine EV general discussion
    F.F.G.s used them for decades(Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate), All submarines have used them for a lot longer. Even Nuclear ones tend to have an electric generator and motor. Ships now are often Integrated electric propulsion (IEP) or full electric propulsion (FEP) is the current ( no pun intended ) crop.

    More than happy with the electronics in my little boat. Batteries can be secured better than a sloppy 150 litres of fuel. A bonus would be a BBQ on boat would not scare me in a electric boat not sitting on top of all the fuel. My thermos and sandwiches could get an upgrade. The Buffer would kill anyone who lit a gas BBQ or smoke within 10+ metres of the ships fuel caddies or paint store if they failed in that task themselves

    I have to wait alas. No suitable long range power power supply yet in my price range. Fairly sure that will change quickly later this year with at least the battery level via Quatumscape (US), Toyota, Panasonic (Japan) and I think BDY (china) is likely to be hot on Solid state small and high capacity batteries. I know marinising almost anything is possible. Its the rusty bits that bite of course.

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    will you need a current license do drive an EV?
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    This one may just be the watershed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    F.F.G.s used them for decades(Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate), All submarines have used them for a lot longer. Even Nuclear ones tend to have an electric generator and motor. Ships now are often Integrated electric propulsion (IEP) or full electric propulsion (FEP) is the current ( no pun intended ) crop.

    More than happy with the electronics in my little boat. Batteries can be secured better than a sloppy 150 litres of fuel. A bonus would be a BBQ on boat would not scare me in a electric boat not sitting on top of all the fuel. My thermos and sandwiches could get an upgrade. The Buffer would kill anyone who lit a gas BBQ or smoke within 10+ metres of the ships fuel caddies or paint store if they failed in that task themselves

    I have to wait alas. No suitable long range power power supply yet in my price range. Fairly sure that will change quickly later this year with at least the battery level via Quatumscape (US), Toyota, Panasonic (Japan) and I think BDY (china) is likely to be hot on Solid state small and high capacity batteries. I know marinising almost anything is possible. Its the rusty bits that bite of course.
    I’m not talking diesel/nuclear electric set ups.
    I’m talking would you trust a small commercial motor and batteries on your boat , offshore EV general discussion

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