Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by Tins

You sure about that? I guess yours could be LFP, but the majority are not.

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As for the phone, I suppose mine does as well, and my cordless tools. All in all I guess I would have about 1/100th of 1% of ONE EV batteries worth of cobalt in my entire home/garage. And absolutely none in my cars. The only batts in them are lead acid.

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Oh, no, there goes your house/garage insurance if insurers enforce the same rules, they are alleging to have in mind for parking garages due to EV fires.

This is long, and it's part two. I have skimmed sections. The parts I have watched contain no expletives. If I have missed one I apologise.
I find it interesting due to the problems encountered in the UK, where there is a far greater coverage of charging stations than here.

Originally Posted by Tins

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Like I said, buy what you like. I would prefer if you didn't ask me to pay for a portion of the purchase, or subsequent recharging. But you do.

Just for my interest - were you ok with us paying tradies to buy diesel utes?

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And are you ok with the cost burdon and illness and death caused by pollution? I can't be bothered trawling for it but it's significant.

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Originally Posted by Tins

This is long, and it's part two. I have skimmed sections. The parts I have watched contain no expletives. If I have missed one I apologise.
I find it interesting due to the problems encountered in the UK, where there is a far greater coverage of charging stations than here.

I only watched a little bit of it too - but seems like the usual FUD. Let's compare one of the cheapest to run diesel cars with one of the most expensive short range EV's - and then let's charge it at the most expensive places and whine about how long it takes. They were a bit light on details, but it would appear the Taycan used just under 19kwh/100 - which is around 6 more than a model Y (and probably even more than a model 3 which would have been equivalent).

But let's reinforce the haters! Farm the clicks.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I only watched a little bit of it too - but seems like the usual FUD. Let's compare one of the cheapest to run diesel cars with one of the most expensive short range EV's - and then let's charge it at the most expensive places and whine about how long it takes. They were a bit light on details, but it would appear the Taycan used just under 19kwh/100 - which is around 6 more than a model Y (and probably even more than a model 3 which would have been equivalent).

But let's reinforce the haters! Farm the clicks.

There you go again - anyone that doesn't love EV's is automatically a hater.

So far from the truth it's no funny - I like EV's, but I don't see the practicality of them beyond affluent city dwellers and can't work out how we're all going to be able to charge them if we all had one (As an Electrical Engineer so please don't post any garbage about this) - so I'm a hater?

Give me strength...

Originally Posted by Homestar

There you go again - anyone that doesn't love EV's is automatically a hater.

So far from the truth it's no funny - I like EV's, but I don't see the practicality of them beyond affluent city dwellers and can't work out how we're all going to be able to charge them if we all had one (As an Electrical Engineer so please don't post any garbage about this) - so I'm a hater?

Give me strength...

So we've posted a video saying that EV's cost more to drive than a diesel car. It's in the UK but this is an Australian forum.

I live in Queensland. The rough charging prices are as follows.

Tesla 70c (peak but less off peak)
BP Pulse 55c
Queensland Electric super highway 30c with 20% off for RACQ members. Ultra rapid 210kwh is 60c (again with 20% off).

My model Y uses around 13 kwh per 100k.

So lets say I pay 50c which is probably more than I actually would but let's go with that. So it's going to cost me $6.50 per 100k. Probably I'm going to use the QESH stations at 30c once I run out of home electrons so it's more likely going to be $3.90 minus the RACQ discount.

So If you can tell me what medium large SUV drive for less than that in fuel costs in QLD I'll retract my FUD statement! In fuel costs alone you'd be really working to manage to get an EV to cost more than an ICE car.

Posting a video saying "Ev's cost more to fuel than ICE cars" is just FUD which someone who's not familiar with EV's might not be able to unpack. Is the purpose of this forum to educate and inform or just dump on something you don't like?

For the record my defender at 12 l/100 and 2.25 pl is $27 per hundred. Is that a fair comparison? Probably not. But it's just as stupid as comparing a Porsche Taycan to a BMW 5 series diesel.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

But let's reinforce the haters! Farm the clicks.

He's presenting accurate findings as pertain to him. But don't let that get in the way of defending your choices.

In the conclusion vid the Taycan cost more than double the Beemer for the journey, took more than six hours longer, and didn't actually finish.