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    Who didn't see that coming? Germany should go back to buying power from France's nukes. They're there, they work and they don't give a **** about weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Farang View Post
    and while it would be able to store many types of energy, it was expected to mainly store solar-generated power.
    Blimey! I suppose electrons from "solar generated power" are different than the other "many types of energy".

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    Grid can go 75% renewable

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    I bet that's a huge problem where you are too huh???
    Dust on panels is more an issue here Grid can go 75% renewable

    And of course thermal de-rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    The Australian Government is surrounded by leaders taking climate action. Will it step up?
    The Australian Government is surrounded by leaders taking climate action. Will it step up? - ABC News
    Problem to deal with is perception as well.

    Is it good to “jump on the bandwagon” or be proactively seeking the right outcome whatever that actually is.

    Not saying this is right or wrong (the above) rather is it correct? Or is it popular?

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    A massive gas failure in Texas was blamed on wind power. The fact that this was taken up by all & sundry as a chance to denigrate renewable power shows how difficult it is for renewables to break thru the gas ceiling. It happened in South Australia as well. Too many shakers & movers are invested in fossil fuels. But it is not stopping the move to renewables.



    Massive Texas gas failure during climate extremes gets blamed on wind power

    Ketan Joshi 16 February 2021 3







    It’s only been a half year since blackouts spread across California during intense summer heat. Those blackouts were immediately blamed on renewable energy; of course it turned out later on that a string of failures in the state’s gas plants were to blame. In fact, it turned out later on that a major part of those blackouts was an instance of a misheard verbal instruction issued to a gas generator. Instead of turning up as instructed, they decreased their output. And it’s five years since South Australia’s 2016 blackout, in which precisely the same sequence of events occurred. A pattern is now clear.
    Major blackout events, usually instigated by grid stress related to climate extremes, become opportunities to attack renewable energy. Media articles, political pronouncements, tweets, Facebook posts, everything – the entire media ecosystem assumes that renewable energy must have done it and runs hard with it. And of course, later, it comes out that fossil fuel failures played a significant or even majority role in the cluster of causes of the event – none of which is covered with the intensity of the original stories.


    Massive Texas gas failure during climate extremes gets blamed on wind power | RenewEconomy
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Problem to deal with is perception as well.

    Is it good to “jump on the bandwagon” or be proactively seeking the right outcome whatever that actually is.

    Not saying this is right or wrong (the above) rather is it correct? Or is it popular?
    Now the UK has joined the EU, and the US in carbon levies. It seems that renewables are popular , and are deemed correct as well. Reading about the German problem with snow & ice, perhaps a nuclear fusion/ renewable energy mix might be worth striving for.



    No point complaining about it, Australia will face carbon levies unless it changes course | RenewEconomy
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Grid can go 75% renewable

    Popular and right aren’t necessarily aligned.
    Having seen how environmental emissions are calculated I have little faith in the numbers we see.

    And I’m yet to be fully convinced that the lithium and graphite extraction processes aren’t just the next problem to deal with in a few decades.

    Historically:
    Horseless carriage - a good thing and now quite popular
    Steam trains (Coal fired) - a good thing and very popular
    Jets - a good thing and popular
    Hydrogen Zeppelins- were a good thing and popular
    Cocaine medicine - very popular
    Cocaine soft drink - very popular

    Human race - just keeps on jumping from one bandwagon to the next.

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    Well, I'm thinking the powers to be at BHP are on the money.

    BHP insists it is taking the energy transition seriously, planning to abandon thermal coal altogether as it turns to what it calls “future facing commodities” like iron ore, copper and nickel. It says these commodities have bright futures in a low carbon world as they play a central role in the manufacture of solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries.
    “In a Paris-aligned, 1.5 degree scenario, we expect that investment in such things as copper-intensive solar generation, nickel-intensive batteries, and steel-intensive wind turbines will contribute to a more than doubling of the amount of primary copper and a quadrupling of the amount of primary nickel demand over the next 30 years, as was produced over the last 30,” CEO Mike Henry said on Tuesday.
    The company has by and large managed to convince investors it is serious about becoming a net zero company (it has set 2050 as the deadline), even though it continues to produce coking coal, oil and gas, and has no intention to pull back production of those.

    BHP says long goodbye to thermal coal, looks to solar, wind and battery metals | RenewEconomy
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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