Thread: $23 cargo barrier " yhea baby!!! ""

Originally Posted by cucinadio

mate very informative, thankyou very much mate


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My pleasure.

Originally Posted by CraigE

Can not see the lower mounts.

The Australian standards relevant documets cam be purchased here
Publication Details - AS/NZS 4034.2:2001 Motor vehicles - Cargo barriers for occupant protection - Partial cargo barriers
I hope that help
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Originally Posted by Chucaro

cucinadio, it is not compulsory to have a cargo barrier. You do not see any factory station wagon be fitted from the factory with a cargo barrier by Goverment regulations.
If a family get squashed by the cargo in the back of the wagon which was secured by el cheapo straps allowed by the authorities it is Ok only a bit messy for the funeral directors.
If you fit an over kill strong cargo barrier 100% stronger than nothing or cheap straps you are guilty.
I done my home work using common sense Do not ask me what
Use yours
If I can put my little bit of inputs, what ever you do do not secure the barrier on the seat belts mounting points.
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mate thanks for the input but their not elcheapo straps there "milford straps" that came w the barrier!!!
whats with you telling me about the mounts when u yourself have placed your mounts in seat belt mounts as well (admittedly not being used by a seat belt )

but "whats with that " and whats with the "cucinadio, it is not compulsory to have a cargo barrier." bit wheres that coming from???
get my point ?? but mate i saying that mate i do really appriciate the input!!!

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Originally Posted by cucinadio

mate thanks for the input but their not elcheapo straps there "milford straps" that came w the barrier!!!
whats with you telling me about the mounts when u yourself have placed your mounts in seat belt mounts as well (admittedly not being used by a seat belt )

but "whats with that " and whats with the "cucinadio, it is not compulsory to have a cargo barrier." bit wheres that coming from???
get my point ?? but mate i saying that mate i do really appriciate the input!!!

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Perhaps I did not explain myself clear. When I mentioned seat belts mounts I referred to the ones on the side. The others at the back will not be in use by any person.
The other comments were not directed to your rig, they were sarcastic comments regarding some very low quality straps that are allowed to be in the market. So what I try to say is that if you are making yourself a barrier very well made but without approval of an authorized engineering you are in trouble. If you fit something el cheepo but with the Aus. standards you are covered.
My barrier is anchored to the floor by 4 x 15 mm high tension bolts, then bolted to the cargo rack which is anchored to the floor by 6 x 15mm bolts and in the top it is stabilized by the 2 bars bolted to the baby seat anchorage points in each side on the top of the rear door. These bars are subjected to a very low tension which is in straight to the barrier.
Before the barrier coming loose in a case of impact the car seats, and heaps of other components in the car will be detached from the chassis In any case it would be physical impossible for the barrier to go to the front and hit the driver. If that happens would be a massive impact and chances are that the driver will be dead before the barrier hit him.
I have made the observation that it is not compolsory having a cargo barrier but if you make one to protect yourself then it is illegal.
Would not be safer to have one very well made by you than nothing ? It was another sarcastic comment regarding the rules made by the bureaucracy.
Hope that I made myself clear.
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I would like to add the the barrier that I used is specifically made for a Discovery series I
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hi guys,

for all concerned i appriciate the feedback re the cargo barrier good or bad thats what were all partisapating in the forum for and for all my decretions i do appriciate the concerns and feedback.
im going to reconfig the barrier to meet all the concerns raised and do somthin like utemad has achived with his im a little concerned to tell the truth drilling into panals and the floor how this could be stronger i dont understand but hay ur all doing it so???


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Drilling into the aluminium floor isn't an issue if you back it up with a plate with lots of surface area. I'm not sure of the forces involved on such a plate when, in a frontal collision, the forces on the hold-down bolt are in shear, not tension.

As an example of what I mean, in the second pic above, the front bolts holding the top straps are in shear, the rear bolts in tension.