Thread: Tie In Suspension?

Do you mean "retaining"?

Its where the bottom of the spring is clamped to the lower spring mount and likewise with the top. The shocks are longer than normal and this allows the axle when fully dropped to then stretch the spring rather than the normal practice of having some degree of compression on the spring at all times to keep the spring from falling out. This type of setup can allow more suspension travel. It doesn't affect the ride height and can be done with any coil spring. Not all suspension designs will benefit from this setup either.

Sorry, never heard of that.

Thanks Slunnie

My problem here is understanding the terminology that everyone here uses!!

Yea what you said is right I think. I just never had it explained to me. I sent an email to Shane at Suspension Stuff and this is what he wrote to me

"Did you want to tie in your rear coils and run longer shocks?"

I didn't understand what he meant and asked him to explain it but I didn't really get what he was talking about either.

Anyway, I am after new gas Shocks and a 2" lift. What I am chasing is a softer ride as my old Rangie spoiled me for great suspension and the Disco I have is a bit truck like for me atm. I think the shockies that are in it are worn out anyway.

Thanks again

Ahhh ok. You'd probably just run a normal setup by the sounds of it. Most people that retain are running high flex trucks which are a bit beyond most weekend 4WDers. If you were going to setup with retained springs then Shane would have supplied you with a different spec shock.

I've just ordered some 2" lift Dobinson Springs and some Boss adjustable Shocks.

Does anyone have this setup??

I am after a soft ride as a priority

let us know how it all goes, pretty interested in these boss shocks that shane advertises. cant go wrong with dobinson springs. sounds like a good setup. you'll be find for driving around. i think what shane was trying to get at was that as slunnie said, in a truck that flex's well in the back have a habit of popping the spring out while off road. some people choose to "tie in" but you lose some flexing abilities. other people use a retainer so that when the spring pops out its held at the bottom, and slide back into place at the top.

Captive is when the spring is kept in by the shock (or limiting strap if you build that way) not allowing the axle to drop away enough for the spring to come loose.



Retained is when the shock is long enough to allow the axle to drop far enough for the spring to come loose, and the spring is tied in at the top and bottom.

Dislocating is when the shock is long enough to allow the axle to drop far enough for the spring to come loose, and the spring is tied in at the top or bottom to prevent the spring being lost, but the untied end will seperate from its spring perch. When the suspension recloses there is also typically a spring relocation guide at the end that isn't tied in so the spring reseats properly.

yeah I have problems with my rear springs falling out with the travel of my es9000 pro comps at present I have a very hi tech strap holding them in (used to hold in luggage on the baggage carts at the airport).....but i have been told having the spring isolator top and bottom is enough to prevent this.

personally i wish I could get hold of some real rear spring retainers for the top, but I have only come across one set in the states and it was silly expensive.

and before anyone says a couple of jubilee clips should do it.....done that and snapped them twice