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Thread: 3 Amigos - Symptoms and Remedy

  1. #41
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    Don't have little cry because someone had the audacity to point out that a whole swag of knowledgeable folk have already done the hard work figuring out the fixes and giving freely of that experience to make it available and accessible in the GoodOil.

    It's one thing to ask the question and another to ignore the advice and guidance and just waste time repeating and debating claims without offering anything worthwhile in the process.

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    I don't think you were particularly audacious, just pointless. If you think the thread is a waste of time, why waste your time responding to it?

    NIck

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    More 3 (4) Amigo stuff

    I won't go into the nitty gritty... it seems pretty clear that there are issues and fixes and phantoms etc.

    My 2003 Disco 2 was lucky enough to be owned previously by a North Shore Banker type who had all the fixes and servicing done so was in very good nick when it came into my possession at 120k.

    I had the various 3 Amigos come on and paid for stuff to be replaced.... latest was ABS sensor, $480 fitted just last Friday... and now not 5 days later they are lighting up again. Remains to be seen if they will come on permanently. I do notice however they more than likely light up when the weather is wet.

    One odd symptom I had on recent 4 Amigos Event (ABS, TC, Hill Descent and Handbrake Lights) was that it was difficult to refuel. When putting diesel in my tank it kept on overbubbling and clicking off the fuel bowser. When faults cleared miraculously this doesn't happen. Anyone else had this or is it just a wild coincidence?


    2003 D2
    Soon to be owner of Amigo USB V1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    I have never made any comment about the effectiveness of option b, just about it's lack of elegance as a fiix. It's an ugly hack regardless of how many hummer drivers have done it.

    FWIW There is replacement modulator module available with redesigned PCB which claims to addresses the cracking issue for under $500.
    Who sells it mate? Cheers

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    Oz,

    Here ya go:

    Discovery 2 II WABCO ABS Rebuild Kit SWO500040 | eBay

    Each remanufactured solenoid pack has been CNC machined to extract the defective potted circuit board. A new proprietary circuit board designed to eliminate the common faults of the original is installed. Highest quality 3M potting compound assures true protection of the new electronics vs less expensive materials. The brand new German SWO500030 plunger switch kit is also provided.

    This will resolve all plunger and solenoid error codes.

    Fits LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II and Hummer H1 applications.
    SWO500040
    It's $450US + $50US shipping. If you can be bothered posting back the old solenoid pack there is a $75US core credit.

    The non-fleabay site is:
    http://modulemaster.com/store/produc...-Rebuild-.html

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    Thanks matey. Triumph Rover spares are onto the issue also. They sell what they say is a full remanufactured ABS Pump and modulator for $600 odd. It has a 12 month guarantee and he says people are taking them up in droves due to the internal circuit board failures. The bloke was telling me that there is a mob in Melbourne who strip them down and fix or replace the board and check or replace seals as necessary etc - this is the they sell. This is a far cry from $4k to $5k that LR were charging for a new one 10 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cheers

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    The TRS modulator sounds like a good deal, but I wonder who the mob in Melbourne are??

    By the time you replace the modulator solenoid pack and do new seals to fix the leaks you'd be close to $600 in parts anyway.

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    Wild Coincidence

    I'd suggest it's a wild coincidence. Systems and functions are completely separate. It's just the human mind trying to find a (cause) link between the two, which is what the mind is good at trying to do, as they seem to happen around the same time. Mind you, random thoughts like this led to the electronics industry being created......

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    Another 3 Amigo Remedy

    I have had the 3 amigos intermittently since I got the TD5. Didn't do Option B, but the diagnosis kept saying shuttle valve fault. Now if it was, then why wasn't it doing it all the time, rather than intermittently? (OK, the valves can give changing values if brake fluid is leaking onto them, which is also possible). Checked and cleaned earths etc. due to it not happening all the time.

    One of the threads about the amigos talked about the yellow green wire in the ABS harness being loose. They took the connector out of the block with a fine screwdriver to push down the retainer piece on the connector, retensioned the retainer, pushed it back in and the 3 amigoes didn't reoccur.

    I didn't go to this length, just pushed the yellow green wire firmly back into the connector block and onto the terminal it was meant to connect to. So far, (touch wood), it's been over a year without them reappearing. Interesting, if you do an Option B mod, it also bypasses the connector block.....

    BTW: I don't want to resurrect the whole 3 amigoes discussion, just add to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsperka View Post
    I have had the 3 amigos intermittently since I got the TD5. Didn't do Option B, but the diagnosis kept saying shuttle valve fault. Now if it was, then why wasn't it doing it all the time, rather than intermittently? (OK, the valves can give changing values if brake fluid is leaking onto them, which is also possible). Checked and cleaned earths etc. due to it not happening all the time.

    One of the threads about the amigos talked about the yellow green wire in the ABS harness being loose. They took the connector out of the block with a fine screwdriver to push down the retainer piece on the connector, retensioned the retainer, pushed it back in and the 3 amigoes didn't reoccur.

    I didn't go to this length, just pushed the yellow green wire firmly back into the connector block and onto the terminal it was meant to connect to. So far, (touch wood), it's been over a year without them reappearing. Interesting, if you do an Option B mod, it also bypasses the connector block.....

    BTW: I don't want to resurrect the whole 3 amigoes discussion, just add to this thread.
    i think the main reason for option b is to bypass that connector block, which has proven to be unreliable.

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