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    The famous oil-pump bolt

    Gidday,

    Just finished my 4th oil-pump bolt check and have got it down to under 3 hours now .

    All up, I dropped the sump and checked both my TD5 Discos (02 & 04) and also have checked my mates 00 Disco and his 02 TD5 Defender.

    As we all know -there is wide and varied opinion whether the Factory "fixed" the problem after the debacle of earlier TD5 engines destroying themselves after oil-pump bolt failure. I have even been assured by a local dealer that all TD5 engines post 2002 are quote "OK" unquote

    However it is a very expensive exercise to ignore and not a very hard task to check so with that in mind - Results to date.....

    Both my 02 (Kind of expected as much) and (Surprise-surprise) 04 oil-pump bolts had no evidence of thread lock fitted by the factory at all. So they have now been removed, cleaned and primed and a premium thread lock applied before being torqued up correctly.

    My mates 00 Disco was similar although I had to use a breaker-bar and some 'shock treatment' to loosen off the bolt as it was so bloody tight!! It's now been thread locked and replaced with correct torque.

    Strange enough - the 02 Defender actually had the Factory thread-lock applied so once the bolt was cleaned up, it went through the same process as the above.

    4 cars spanning 4 years and only 1 had the correct Factory "fix"..

    We can now both rest assured that when we go up to the tip of the Cape late next year - the last thing to let us down will be a failed oil-pump bolt

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    FWIW the sump torque settings in RAVE and on Urban Panzers site are incorrect.

    The sump gasket was redesigned to improve sealing between block and sump and the torque settings changed slightly. The four bolts at the rear of the sump should be torqued to 28nm, while the rest of the bolts are 25nm as per RAVE. It's not a huge difference but I haven't seen anyone mention this when discussing the oil pump bolt.

    LR Tech bulletin covering this is attached for reference.
    Last edited by OffTrack; 10th April 2012 at 05:32 AM.

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    I was onto my father in law for ages to check his, and a well known Perth service agent ( independant ) told him nah L/R fixed the problem with the update D2a.
    His was 1 of the very last D2a think 12/04 and at 100,000kms service my nagging him finaly got him to get it checked and it had worked itself loose to only having about 3 threads left holding the gear onto the pump.


    Think its something to check reguardless of what year your TD5 engine is.

    Cheers Ean

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    '03 d2a here. Bolt was tight but no signs of thread lock. I've heard of 03 and 04 models with loose bolts so I'd get it checked regardless of year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    FWIW the sump torque settings in RAVE and on Urban Panzers site are incorrect.

    The sump gasket was redesigned to improve sealing between block and sump and the torque settings changed slightly. The four bolts at the rear of the sump should be torqued to 28nm, while the rest of the bolts are 25nm as per RAVE. It's not a huge difference but I haven't seen anyone mention this when discussing the oil pump bolt.
    LR Tech bulletin covering this is attached for reference.
    It's a very good point and fortunately, these bolts are easily accessed so I'll nip them up this morning. I might also add that the sealant areas on the sump gasket recommended in the manual are to narrow in my opinion. I increased the area particularly near the rear of the sump and all 4 engines are completely oil-tight.

    A final tip to stop the gasket moving when re-installing the sump (Specially if you are doing the job by yourself), is to tie it in place through the bolt holes with cotton thread. The thread will compress and eventually decompose.....works a treat!!

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    what type / brand of sealant?

    what type / brand of gasket sealent are you using on the locations with the veritcal face?

    I have the Haynes manual (not to hand) and it says to use LR stuff but what can I get from in town that will be sufficent?
    I am thinking of some loctite brand

    thanks

    Hay Ewe

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    My 04 Defender @125k bolt was finger tight only, no factory thread lock.
    If your going to drop the sump you should buy a new factory OEM bolt, $10.00. & new sump gasket.
    New bolt comes with dry thread lock on it But wise to add med strength loctite as well.

    I did not put any sealent at all on the T/C & Rear seal joints and does not leak after 10K. I prefer not to have loose bits of oozed out sealer floating around inside my engine.
    Last edited by goingbush; 8th December 2011 at 03:11 PM. Reason: dyslexia

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    Hi Folks.

    Is it just the Td5 with this loose oil pump bolt or V8 also??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hay Ewe View Post
    what type / brand of gasket sealent are you using on the locations with the veritcal face?

    I have the Haynes manual (not to hand) and it says to use LR stuff but what can I get from in town that will be sufficent?
    I am thinking of some loctite brand

    thanks

    Hay Ewe
    Any gasket sealant you can get from auto shops like permatex or dow corning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck.B View Post
    Hi Folks.

    Is it just the Td5 with this loose oil pump bolt or V8 also??
    Just TD5

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