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    Fuel usable after light comes on?

    Just got back from my first trip in the D2.
    Couple of times I let it run until the fuel light came on and then filled up.
    Each time I put around 80 litres in.

    Given the stated capacity of the tank (in the owners manual) is 95 litres, my question is related to how much of that 95 litres is usable.

    Can I safely use most of that up or am I pushing my luck?
    Given my average fuel usage on that trip (10.5 L/100 km), trying to work out how many km I have after the light comes on?

    On this trip I only ran it down in areas I knew I could fill up nearly straight away and each time the result was within a litre on the fill.

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    I traveled 70 km after the fuel light came on (becuase that was the closest fuel supply!)

    I filled up and put 91 litres!

    Many on the forum here reccomend never let the fuel pump operate with less than half a tank unless you have to. Keeps the pump cooler and extends service life of the pump it seems.

    cheers

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    Keeping tank above min will help pump life.

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    I think the owners manual states 9L left when fuel light comes on.

    By your calc's, you've got 15L left ... at 10.5L/100km ... about 150km to dry.

    Mine runs out BEFORE the fuel light comes on (like at 1/8 tank remaining ) .... and I squeeze fill 95L.

    Like's been said .... keeping the fuel pump submerged makes for a happy fuel pump, so by your numbers, maybe 400-600km then fill.
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    The new pumps sit in a "bucket" of fuel, so its not a problem anymore,,
    if it ever was,,
    the fuel running through it would be enough to control its temp,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift
    The new pumps sit in a "bucket" of fuel, so its not a problem anymore,,
    if it ever was,,
    the fuel running through it would be enough to control its temp,,
    It's well known the more you keep the tank levels up the better the pumps last.

    Those who keep their TD5 tanks higher tend to get further before the inevitable failure.

    Skuilnaam

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    And its really cool when they let go at 1600 in the Sydney Harbour Tunnel

    you get a ride home in a pretty white truck with flashing lights

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    Not sure about the additional fuel required to keep the fuel pump cool. It is usually the pumps failing because at the bottom of the fuel tank is the rubbish, when the fuel tank gets low this goes through the pump and that damages/shortens the life of/kills the fuel pump. Especially on older vehicles as they've had more years to collect stuff at the bottom of the fuel tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twr7cx View Post
    Not sure about the additional fuel required to keep the fuel pump cool. It is usually the pumps failing because at the bottom of the fuel tank is the rubbish, when the fuel tank gets low this goes through the pump and that damages/shortens the life of/kills the fuel pump. Especially on older vehicles as they've had more years to collect stuff at the bottom of the fuel tank.
    I don't get this, must be an Old Mechanic's myth. All fuel pumps suck fuel from the very bottom of the tank, any rubbish would get sucked onto the filter sock on the pump inlet, regardless. Most EFI pumps sit in a surge pot, especially the LR ones have a jet pump arrangement with the return line that keeps the pot full and the pump fully immersed. Only when you run out of fuel does the pump run dry and overheat. This is a common problem with petrol/gas vehicles when the petrol runs out and the vehicle continues on gas. Failure of the pump can then take as little as 15 minutes.

    The only way rubbish gets decanted from any tank is when you empty an old jerrycan or similar, the last bit contains the trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    I don't get this, must be an Old Mechanic's myth. All fuel pumps suck fuel from the very bottom of the tank, any rubbish would get sucked onto the filter sock on the pump inlet, regardless. Most EFI pumps sit in a surge pot, especially the LR ones have a jet pump arrangement with the return line that keeps the pot full and the pump fully immersed. Only when you run out of fuel does the pump run dry and overheat. This is a common problem with petrol/gas vehicles when the petrol runs out and the vehicle continues on gas. Failure of the pump can then take as little as 15 minutes.

    The only way rubbish gets decanted from any tank is when you empty an old jerrycan or similar, the last bit contains the trash.
    EXACTLY

    And after 11 yrs of D2 ownership,never ever had a fuel pump failure.I had a company car,wife did most of the daily driving in the D2's.The fuel tank was constantly nearly empty,she would put $40 in here,$50 there,just what she did.
    Every time i got in it to go somewhere it was always empty,a regular PITA.

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