Thread: D2 front recovery points???

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Although the ARB crush can is capable of 15t before deformation...

Hence why ARB winch bars have the winch on the bar (in front of mount)

I concur. I think we would also all agree there are potentially significant differences between pulling with a winch, and pulling or snatching with a vehicle (although a snatch strap should break well before 15 tonnes?)

This is how mine aremounted on the D2, direct to the chassis rails where the crush cans and bash plate mount to.

Mine are mounted through the blade of the ARB winch bar, in-line with the chassis using RUD swivel points...

15t is deformation point, an 8t snatch strap will break at 8-9t...

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Mine are mounted through the blade of the ARB winch bar, in-line with the chassis using RUD swivel points...

15t is deformation point, an 8t snatch strap will break at 8-9t...

Picture would be nice if you have time - particularly interested in the swivels!

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Mine are mounted through the blade of the ARB winch bar, in-line with the chassis using RUD swivel points...

15t is deformation point, an 8t snatch strap will break at 8-9t...

Maybe the riggers around here can clarify but I always thought if there was a rating on a strap, say 8t, then the strap is rated to safely handle an 8 tonne load without failing. That 8t rating is referenced to a safety factor, 3:1 for instance. Therefore actual failure does not occur until a load of 24 tonnes is reached.

Of course this all about static loads. All bets are off with dynamic loads.

Sounds like a lot of talk over nothing here they're just disco's if they get stuck just leave them there, they are a dime a dozen anyway.

Originally Posted by Ferret

Maybe the riggers around here can clarify but I always thought if there was a rating on a strap, say 8t, then the strap is rated to safely handle an 8 tonne load without failing. That 8t rating is referenced to a safety factor, 3:1 for instance. Therefore actual failure does not occur until a load of 24 tonnes is reached.

Of course this all about static loads. All bets are off with dynamic loads.

Rigging gear yes... But this is not rigging gear...

4wd gear (straps) are rated to Max... No safety factor....

Shackles yes, have the factor - hence 3.7t shackles on 8t snatch straps


ALSO important - Dont use an over rated strap eg... a 15t snatch strap is no good to recover a 3t 4wd as they dont get the stretch up as easy and can do damage!

Originally Posted by CJT

This is how mine aremounted on the D2, direct to the chassis rails where the crush cans and bash plate mount to.

I've noticed you needed an aftermarket steering guard, because you can't put anything on top of the factory one

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Although the ARB crush can is capable of 15t before deformation...

Hence why ARB winch bars have the winch on the bar (in front of mount)

Based on that the crush cans should be fine, considering average snach strap has a breaking point of 9T. Why does everyone say you should never use bullbar for recovery though?