Thread: D4 v LC200

Geez... buy a Defender already.... thats what they are made for... extreme offroading. If you dont like the D4 buy a D3, dont like a D3 buy a defender. At the end of the day who really cares... like all cars they are going to have weakness's but overall lets be honest the D4 is a weapon offroad for the everyday user.

Dorko

I have a LC200 V8 diesel as a work vehicle - a very capable vehicle on and off road - and I've never been in a D4 (or D3). The real downside of the cruiser is the fuel usage - I've never driven a diesel as thirsty as this one! If the D4 is anywhere near as economical as my TD5 D2 then it would be a vast improvement over the cruiser. The turbo lag takes a bit of getting used to on gravel as well.

The other thing I've noticed with the cruiser is that it is quite difficult to "feel" where the edges of the vehicle are - especially when reversing. Again, I've not driven a D4, so perhaps they are also bad?

The common comment from people who have driven my 200 series is "It's a bloody ripper, but I'm glad I'm not paying for the fuel" ...me too!

Cheers,

Adam

Wouldn't it be lovely if Landrover released a New Defender with the 3.0L TDv6 and an auto option , It would stop a lot of this Non-sense threads

or a TDV8 would even be more desirable

tyres doesnt bother me at all, i could still buy a D4 and option smaller rims and still spend less than a bog standard 200 series diesel.

I just think that for anyone other than a died in the wool toyota fan buying a cruiser is a waste of money, i dont doubt that they are a top truck, im sure they are, but for the same money you just get so much more bang for your buck with a disco4.

Originally Posted by Disco_owner

Wouldn't it be lovely it Landrover released a New Defender with the 3.0L TDv6 and an auto option , It would stop a lot of this Non-sense threads

or a TDV8 would even be more desirable

2012 there is one coming, but it will be based on the D3/4 platform apparently. Should be interesting.

Bloody hell...starting to feel like I am talking to the brick wall brigade . I loved my D3...it was a weapon off road....but so is my D2......it is also a better suited weapon off road. The D3 leaves my D2 for dead on road in terms of refinement, bells and whistles etc. My pic does tell a thousand words.....these were General Grabbers at around 20-22 PSI and the sidewall available as can be seen was ****house. 19's with a 55/60 sidewall aired down also = ****house.

I also think the D4 is a nice bit of kit as well. Bottom line is that LR/Toyota/Nissan aren't building 4WD's anymore...they are building luxo on road warriors. That is my point. I think the comment on buy a defender is rubbish....I threw my D3 up places fenders dared to tread ....in fact where most D3/D4 owners would dare to tread....so I know what it is capable of.

What would make it an offroad weapon is decent tyre options. Do a search on any D3/D4/LR option....biggest issue with them both is tyre options. LRA is not taking this into account especially with the latest batch of vehicles. If you are an on road warrior and hit the dirt and sand etc then a decent ATR will cut the mustard. If you want to do some harder stuff.... then 18's, 19's and 20's is a much harder option. Yes you can get MTR's on what I believe is on special order and expect to pay $600++ per corner. Is that really marketing to the 4WDer?

I see nothing wrong in making comment on either of these vehicles and how they could and should be bettered to suit the 4WDer...not the highway warrior. I absolutely agree that if you are touring and unlikely to need sidewall bagging etc....then an 18 with a reasonable ATR will do the trick. If you go beyond that and want to really test the vehicle....then with 18inch to 20 inch tyre options..........and remaining legal......the options are limited.

I was well impressed by what my D3 with 19's and HP's could and did tackle...until $1500++ later from shredded tyres...then another $900+ on 18's and General Grabbers. With my D2.......and 16's......have tackled even tougher terrain.....now 14 trips and same set of tyres, no sidewall issues, no flats, no peeling off rims etc. No one can tell me tyres do not make a difference and that LR couldn't give a hoot about that factor,

Regards

Stevo

Good points! But my comment about a defender is because they have no gagdets/ luxury. They, in my opinion a true raw 4WD and if you want to go 4WD bashing, then you don't need to really worry about looks, rims etc. this is why LR keep this model basic for those that love the bush can have the fun.

Chill-lax Stevo! I think everyone agrees now about the large rims are easy to damage and not as good offroad. Agreed?

Dorko

Originally Posted by stevo68

Bloody hell...starting to feel like I am talking to the brick wall brigade . I loved my D3...it was a weapon off road....but so is my D2......it is also a better suited weapon off road. The D3 leaves my D2 for dead on road in terms of refinement, bells and whistles etc. My pic does tell a thousand words.....these were General Grabbers at around 20-22 PSI and the sidewall available as can be seen was ****house. 19's with a 55/60 sidewall aired down also = ****house.

I also think the D4 is a nice bit of kit as well. Bottom line is that LR/Toyota/Nissan aren't building 4WD's anymore...they are building luxo on road warriors. That is my point. I think the comment on buy a defender is rubbish....

I threw my D3 up places fenders dared to tread

....in fact where most D3/D4 owners would dare to tread....so I know what it is capable of.

What would make it an offroad weapon is decent tyre options. Do a search on any D3/D4/LR option....biggest issue with them both is tyre options. LRA is not taking this into account especially with the latest batch of vehicles. If you are an on road warrior and hit the dirt and sand etc then a decent ATR will cut the mustard. If you want to do some harder stuff.... then 18's, 19's and 20's is a much harder option. Yes you can get MTR's on what I believe is on special order and expect to pay $600++ per corner. Is that really marketing to the 4WDer?

I see nothing wrong in making comment on either of these vehicles and how they could and should be bettered to suit the 4WDer...not the highway warrior. I absolutely agree that if you are touring and unlikely to need sidewall bagging etc....then an 18 with a reasonable ATR will do the trick. If you go beyond that and want to really test the vehicle....then with 18inch to 20 inch tyre options..........and remaining legal......the options are limited.

I was well impressed by what my D3 with 19's and HP's could and did tackle...until $1500++ later from shredded tyres...then another $900+ on 18's and General Grabbers. With my D2.......and 16's......have tackled even tougher terrain.....now 14 trips and same set of tyres, no sidewall issues, no flats, no peeling off rims etc. No one can tell me tyres do not make a difference and that LR couldn't give a hoot about that factor,

Regards

Stevo

well I must say they must of fuelled their Fenders on kitten farts......

If you had taken your D3 where my other half and some friends have been in their fenders..your D3 wouldn't look as straight as it does on that bumpy fire trail you showed it on further up