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    Hi clubagreenie, ( I love that name ), during their normal operating life, both 42 class and 43 class were not allowed to run 2 end leading as the second unit.

    They could be run with 2 end leading when in the 3rd position in a triple header set up.

    The reason they could not be run 2 end leading in a double header set up is because both classes only had shunting controls in the number 2 end cab and had no rear vision mirrors and the two windows, one at the rear and one at the side, could not be opened.

    So if the lead unit failed, the 42 ( or 43 ) if running 2 end leading, could not be used to haul the train.

    I only ever saw one set of 43 class locos running back to back and that was on the Newcastle Flier between Gosford and Newcastle.

    A little trivia, if you line up a 42, a 421 and a 422 and have a look at the back of the three locos, you can see how the 422 ( both ends ) evolved from the 42, to the 421 and then the final shape on the 422.

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    That clears that up.

    Still think they're the best looking of their era. Just something retro about them, they could be running today and look good.

    One of the saddest pics I've found of them, they're not hauling into the yard. They're staying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubagreenie View Post
    Still think they're the best looking of their era. Just something retro about them, they could be running today and look good.
    They still are in use. I've seen a couple run by Independent Rail working on the local SW Sydney tracks from time to time.

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Rail_of_Australia"]Independent Rail of Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:MZ_Locomotive_Blayney_NSW.jpg" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/MZ_Locomotive_Blayney_NSW.jpg/300px-MZ_Locomotive_Blayney_NSW.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/c/c9/MZ_Locomotive_Blayney_NSW.jpg/300px-MZ_Locomotive_Blayney_NSW.jpg[/ame]

    Great looking loco .

    **Disregard the picture above - the 44 class is mentioned in the link itself.
    Scott

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    Was going to say... looks like a judge dread version of a 42 there.

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    Hi Guys,they are MZ class,old Euro locos,20 cyl emd 2strokes,had a short ride in one at Ardglen a few weeks ago,you should see where the toilet isand the cab is tiny and really old design!!...But they sound fantastic

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    Now what was this argument about standard and narrow gauge.

    Here’s one train that tried both.

    The XPT derailed at South Brisbane the other day when it tried to go down the narrow gauge.

    Lucky it didn’t go much further with the platform just in front of it.

    Standard gauge passenger trains are “normally” routed around the platform at South Brisbane on a dedicated loop line because the standard gauge trains won’t clear the platform.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3-Gees View Post
    Hi Guys,they are MZ class,old Euro locos,20 cyl emd 2strokes,had a short ride in one at Ardglen a few weeks ago,you should see where the toilet isand the cab is tiny and really old design!!...But they sound fantastic
    Interesting engines, EMD's. Fabricated from steel plate and pressings. Electro-Motive Division of General Motors Corporation was created from the 1930 purchase of the Winton Engine Company and the Electro-Motive Engineering Company both of Cleveland, Ohio. In 1937 Winton's name was changed to Cleveland Diesel Engine Division. In the same year the Detroit Diesel Engine division was set up to produce smaller diesel engines for marine and industrial use. The interests of Cleveland and Electro-Motive were merged about 1962 to form EMD. GM sold the division in 2005 and ownership eventually ended up with a wholly owned subsidiary of Caterpillar Inc.

    They are two-stroke engines operating very like the smaller Detroit Diesels. Some have Roots blowers for scavenging, and some have a turbo-charger which operates as a centrifugal supercharger via a gear train on start-up and which gear train is shifted out of operation when the system is producing enough breeze via exhaust drive. Big V20's pulling hard do sound nice.

    EMD also make, since 1998, a four stroke V16 of 6300 hp.
    URSUSMAJOR

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    is producing enough breeze via exhaust drive. Big V20's pulling hard do sound nice.[/QUOTE]
    They sure do Brian,but they are very ,heavy on fuel as you would expect
    As for the XPT derailment,that is not my section but I know the cause from our incident reports, and no mechanical failure was to blame but thats all I can say,also not driver error and not due to dual guage turnout,cheers Gregg

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    Did Ron forget to throw a switch???
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    Not how you really want to see them.







    Photos I believe are somewhere in west NSW during 2007.
    came to me as an email 'chain'


    Martyn

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