Then there is the power issue of the 70's and huge fuel consumption on some models (in excess of 20/100km.... not towing!)
I have a work Hilux and after driving a Navara and the Disco it is a big dissapointment... now chipped and new exhaust... at least it can now do the same speed up the local hill as my 300tdi!
(The chip had top go in when I was passed by a rental Iveco camper going up a hill!)


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