Thread: MOST DANGEROUS 4X4 EVER MADE!

... and my 'reserve', - '89 Pajero Turbo-diesel, - car is sounding even betterer !

James the Luddite



'95 Classic Vogue with EAS, EFI, SRS, ABS and ABP...

'89 Pajero T/Diesel 5 spd manual with mechanical IP, LOLR and BLS

whats the latest, any updates drivesafe
cheers
blaze

Hi Blaze, I told them I was in no hurry to get the RR back and for them to work on it when they had spare time, so at this stage I have no idea where they are up to and to be honest, I don’t really care.

I have a loaner at the time, a little Toyota sedan and after driving Landies for the last 15 years, the first drive in the Toyota and I half expected to get out of it with a gravel rashed arse as you sit so close to the tarmac.

I also noticed I was travelling a lot slower because you are so close to the ground, you thick your flying but I was actually under the speed limit.

Whatever you do... don't drive a late model Pajero diesel or otherwise...

Friend of mine (Disco II tragic) loved his (from new) TD-5, but Wife got sick of the endless breakdowns on their round Oz trip, and ended up trading it for a new Paj diesel.

- Now he'll never go back to LR, more power towing their 'van, more SPACE inside and drives and rides as well as the Disco, so SWMBO reckons.

Best of all, NO reliability issues in the 15 months+ since SHE bought it !
(Unlike the Disco)

Yes, it IS an interesting view of other cars... looking UP at their headlights

Hi superquad, don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate LR vehicles in general, just LR’s pussbox Range Rovers.

My wife’s D3 and D4 were ultra reliable and the few little things that went wrong were fixed immediately, where as with the RR the warranty was a total waste of time and nothing ever got fixed or got fixed properly.

An example as mentioned earlier in this thread, is the glove box. The thing doesn’t work, you can not open it whether the power is there or not.

There is a large round switch next to the glove box and to open the main glove box, you press the lower side of the switch and the glove box is supposed to open.

In my RR you have to hold the glove box door closed while you press the switch to get it to open.

Above the glove box is the a compartment where the CD stacker and Venture Cam are housed. If you press the top of the same large round button, this compartments door opens every time.

The problem is that I don’t need to access this compartment because the pussbox RR can’t be used off road so the Venture Cam is a waste of time and I've only used it 3 times. The CD player is a nightmare to try to get it to work and I no longer even both to try to use it so I have no reason to access this compartment at all.

These problems were supposed to be fixed during services while the pussbox was under warranty and they were either fixed but played up again or were never fixed at all.

So much for the RR being a luxury off roader. It is anything but luxurious and can’t be taken off road.

Why can't it be taken off-road?

I've been following this thread and need to point out that this issue (the original one where a vehicle was stranded and unable to be moved) is applicable to almost any new vehicle. When we make cars that rely highly on electrical, electronic and mechanical parts that are not user serviceable, and where the vehicles are controlled by one or more computers that are in charge of everything, we have to expect more of this. Many newer vehicles have interlocks to stop them being put in or out of gear unless the engine is running and the brakes are on, and some new cars coming out without traditional shifters, merely switches (as opposed to shifters connected to the gearbox by cables or rods).

Essentially, any automatic car that stalls out while in gear on a dark road and loses its battery power or connection somehow is in the same bad situation. Many have electronic boot releases, electronically controlled brakes etc etc. After all, trucks that lose their air supply often have their brakes locked on as a safety feature. I personally would never own an automatic car, personal preference as I just don't like them.

Originally Posted by superquag

Whatever you do... don't drive a late model Pajero diesel or otherwise...

Friend of mine (Disco II tragic) loved his (from new) TD-5, but Wife got sick of the endless breakdowns on their round Oz trip, and ended up trading it for a new Paj diesel.

- Now he'll never go back to LR, more power towing their 'van, more SPACE inside and drives and rides as well as the Disco, so SWMBO reckons.

Best of all, NO reliability issues in the 15 months+ since SHE bought it !
(Unlike the Disco)

Yes, it IS an interesting view of other cars... looking UP at their headlights

Getting off the subject a bit,that is exactly what LR are missing in their lineup,a basic family wagon.

After reading this thread,just glad i have the D2