Thread: Carbon Tax. Well someone had to bring it up!

Some of these people use the soup kitchens, because they don't want to use the money from their drug sales on food and their dole only pays for the rent on their housing department accommodation, services like electricity and taxi fares to the pub and the soup kitchen.

Don't flame me, because I used to to provide primary health services to these sort of people, which is a lot more experience than most of the others on this forum.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

If we want to stop CO2, everyone should stop breathing out!

Once you go over say 50 million citizens, then those people should be calculated on the same basis as coal fired power stations.

Dummy Spits !! powered by CO2.

Cheers Arthur

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

With the increasing density of inner urban housing, every new development has a lift and each apartment has no option for solar-hot water or photo-voltaic panels. How are they going to reduce their electricity consumption. Get a water/hydraulic lift like they used a hundred years ago?

This is all cart before the horse policy, there should be low CO2 or no-CO2 alternatives available before they introduce the C/Tax. Remove the subsidies from the coal generation polluters and subsidise the R&D of innovation in power generation, plus construction of wind, solar, geo-thermal, wave and tidal power generation. Electrify the national rail network and then we can talk about carbon taxes.

Totally agree, we are affectively going to be fined for not using technology that has not been invented yet. Renewables don't currently produce the bulk power we need.

Originally Posted by Bluefox

A couple of points that bother me:

This new tax also looks like outspending itself by $4 billion in its first four years....

Heavy vheicles are only exempt from the tax for the first two years...

Coal will still be shipped overseas, so China will still have cheap power...

$100 billion will be spent on renewable energy sources, hopefully they'll find something before Hazelwood is shut down and Victoria is left in the dark literally and figurativly.

Gillard and Co. have failed every other project they've tried, how can they handle such a huge change to our economy?

Its what happens when enthusiastic amatures are put in charge of a country

Caltex has today announced that it may cease refining in Australia, because it is cheaper for them to refine in countries that don't have a carbon tax and import the refined fuel to Australia. Will these to be the first jobs that Gillard exports off-shore? The first of many, I think.

The upshot of this is that the newly unemployed Caltex refinery workers (as they join the recently unemployed Shell, Clyde refinery workers) will now be eligible for low income offsets which they wouldn't have been entitled had they still had a job.

Originally Posted by Graz

Totally agree, we are affectively going to be fined for not using technology that has not been invented yet. Renewables don't currently produce the bulk power we need.

Then I call this an incentive to pull the finger out don't you?

And you have to ask yourself, how bad is it really when even a minority government can get it passed?

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Please keep it quiet, now some one will come with the ozone tax

Been waiting for the sun tax for those of us that have solar panels

Originally Posted by Graz

Totally agree, we are affectively going to be fined for not using technology that has not been invented yet. Renewables don't currently produce the bulk power we need.

It is a matter of willing and time, China is building a city for 350000 people, just do a search for Tianjin Eco-City