Thread: Carbon Tax. Well someone had to bring it up!

Originally Posted by Fluids

So that's 50% for us + 40% towards new technology + 10% direct to the UN leaving how many %% to run the admin of this program ? .... oh, that comes out of internal revenue ... which is paid by ?

Climate change is real. I don't deny that. The climate is ALWAYS changing. Always has, always will, and in the big picture there isn't much we can do to change what mother nature wants to do. I'm all for finding ways to reduce our impact on the planet ... like stop manufacturing cheap throw away consumer goods ... make them properly, make them repairable, which in turn fosters growth in the service & repair industires (which the box merchant industries have no interest in), which in turn provides jobs & skills/training ... the old "it's cheaper to throw it away and buy a new one" is blatant enviromental vandalism ...

... but to use the excuse of "climate change" to hang a new tax on us is flawed.

This "carbon tax" is just 1 little portion of the UN's "Agenda 21" ... which they have been working on for almost the last 20yrs ... has anyone taken the time to get under the hood and understand what that Agenda 21 actually means for mankind ? I have asked over 100+ people this week if they have ever heard of Agenda 21 ... not one person had! Not one !

Yes, I know the agenda 21 and if you read the Principles 15 to 20 you will see that there are some "buts" to protect the economic factor in the rich countries.

Principle 16

National authorities should endeavour to promote the internalization of
environmental costs and the use of economic instruments, taking into account
the approach that the polluter should, in principle, bear the cost of
pollution, with due regard to the public interest and without distorting
international trade and investment.

Originally Posted by Fluids

... ...
in the big picture there isn't much we can do to change what mother nature wants to do.
... ...

That is what people thought about the Newfoundland cod fishing industry - until it collapsed as a result of human activity.
Collapse of the Northern Cod Fishery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Fluids

So that's 50% for us + 40% towards new technology + 10% direct to the UN leaving how many %% to run the admin of this program ? .... oh, that comes out of internal revenue ... which is paid by ?

Climate change is real. I don't deny that. The climate is ALWAYS changing. Always has, always will, and in the big picture there isn't much we can do to change what mother nature wants to do. I'm all for finding ways to reduce our impact on the planet ... like stop manufacturing cheap throw away consumer goods ... make them properly, make them repairable, which in turn fosters growth in the service & repair industires (which the box merchant industries have no interest in), which in turn provides jobs & skills/training ... the old "it's cheaper to throw it away and buy a new one" is blatant enviromental vandalism ...

... but to use the excuse of "climate change" to hang a new tax on us is flawed.

This "carbon tax" is just 1 little portion of the UN's "Agenda 21" ... which they have been working on for almost the last 20yrs ... has anyone taken the time to get under the hood and understand what that Agenda 21 actually means for mankind ? I have asked over 100+ people this week if they have ever heard of Agenda 21 ... not one person had! Not one !

Well I have heard of Agenda 21, only because someone told me to look it up on my computer, which I did.

Basically, the carbon tax is a pollution fine levied on the 500 biggest polluters to encourage them to change their ways. Is anyone against reducing pollution?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Basically, the carbon tax is a pollution fine levied on the 500 biggest polluters to encourage them to change their ways. Is anyone against reducing pollution?

Many people are in favor to reduce pollution providing that China, USA and others do it first, if not, they are happy to keep vanadalizing the planet until the next generations will be living in hell

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Basically, the carbon tax is a pollution fine levied on the 500 biggest polluters to encourage them to change their ways. Is anyone against reducing pollution?

It is a fine that will be passed on to the consumers.

I, for one, will be worse off, based on the governments own calculator.

In addition, the public were mis-lead by the now Prime Minister.

Plus, as has been said, Australia's contribution to the Carbon Dioxide levels world wide, is minimal, and other countries need to step up to the plate.

New NASA Data Blows Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism - Yahoo! News

Originally Posted by Fluids

New NASA Data Blows Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism - Yahoo! News

Interesting, lots of denialist hyperbole, but who is the author writing for? Looks like a strange kind of free market think tank to me. I'd love to see leaders in climate science back this up.

James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute and managing editor of Environment & Climate News.