Thread: one for the young Greenies.

Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

The facts that some try to highlight in regards to the benefits of cutting down on mass beef production (and other meats), is that on a global scale the current techniques employed, produce negative enviromental conditions and byproducts rendering the production unsustainable in todays, and more so tomorrows world.
The belief that this is true or false is irrelevant when overwhelming science based research shows it as fact.

I don't know if being a vegetarian is better or worse than being an omnivore when it comes to my immediate and individual physical health, but I am not exploring that question when I think about the point above.

Rant over.

In RED There are NO hard facts backing up your argument in reality, facts as you say can be interpreted to say many things as can research and statistics so what you refer to as facts I refer to as what is a waste product from a Bull's bottom.....And that's a fact that can't be disputed.

You would make a very good politician as what you said really says nothing much at all other than, your happy with being a Vego for now or until your health starts to fail and then you will consider another lifestyle?

Other than that, over whelming scientific research said that Cane toads were a good idea, that building atom bomb's was a great way to protect our countries and overwhelming scientific research say's you and your greeny mates are all wrong completely, while being sponsored by the oil companies and big business.

But it's Over whelming scientific research so it must be right as normal just whelming research or just research wouldn't have the same level of importance or stature.

I think that Greenies and Vego's have the same special thesaurus of how to make something sound more overwhelmingly important.

There are many things wrong with the world and not everyone will be happy, in the end when we're all gone from this world, it will repair it self and go through yet another phase, you and your kids or your far off ancestors wont have to worry about it much, best we just do what we can to make us happy and comfortable for now and work slowly and carefully toward possibly allowing mankind to be around a bit longer.

I'm far from being anti Green but I'm also very very far from being any sort of green nut or extremist, I have been a beef and sheep farmer, I will always eat meat as will my kids but I will always will do what I can to reduce my personal impact on the planet but I'm not going to go to extremes that make life uncomfortable, I'm only here once I'm going to enjoy myself.

Felling a bit under whelmed

Cheers Casper

hmmm I was going to join this argument but I think I'll sit on the fence and eat some FISH.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

hmmm I was going to join this argument but I think I'll sit on the fence and eat some FISH.

You have fallen for a common misconception. Fish flesh and muscle (the bit we eat) is indeed meat. Not red meat, but meat none the less.
I often argue with my loved ones that asking to have meat for dinner and getting chicken, fish, iguana, eagle, frog, snake, whale, goat or horse, has in fact met their requirements.
I would contend that soy burgers, soy sausages or 'it's not meat' products do not!

Ralph

just wondering do fish fart methane?

Originally Posted by Rusnut

just wondering do fish fart methane?

Kept fish for a while, never saw a bubble come from their bums so I'd say no. But their wee is acidic hence you need to keep PH under control.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

hmmm I was going to join this argument but I think I'll sit on the fence and eat some FISH.

studies I have been lead to believe is that fish don't feel pain, they seem to go about being held out of water gasping as no air is oxygenated water is passing their gills. They seem to be able to hold their breath a long time while the people who make TV fishing shows crap on and take pics. Then they are held by their mouth so their total body mass pulls on their neck.
Fish can have half their side removed by a shark ( except vital organs) and still live on.
Fish can be hooked , fought or scull dragged up and then be released then 5 mins later take another bait. They must be brainless also.
I still prefer to stick a stake through their brains to finish them off. Just in case they do feel pain

Originally Posted by It'sNotWorthComplaining!

studies I have been lead to believe is that fish don't feel pain, they seem to go about being held out of water gasping as no air is oxygenated water is passing their gills. They seem to be able to hold their breath a long time while the people who make TV fishing shows crap on and take pics. Then they are held by their mouth so their total body mass pulls on their neck.
Fish can have half their side removed by a shark ( except vital organs) and still live on.
Fish can be hooked , fought or scull dragged up and then be released then 5 mins later take another bait. They must be brainless also.
I still prefer to stick a stake through their brains to finish them off. Just in case they do feel pain

The scientific concensus is growing that fish do experience "pain" or something similar.
Fish feel no pain (Part II) › Dr Karl's Great Moments In Science (ABC Science)

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

The topic of overpopulation has popped up a few times on this thread. I could not agree more that this is the worlds biggest problem. If I lived in a place where I could not feed my children I would not have any. I cannot understand why people in third world countries have children, where there is limited food and people are starving.

Dave.

Including all the so called 3rd world countries it is not correct.
Some countries are call 3rd world and are in that positions because they were exploit by USA, UK and other EU countries but not necessary are 3rd world in education.
Uruguay still has the some population than 20 years ago because the population is intelligent enough to not have more than 2 children per family if the economy allows it.
I do not like when people from USA, UK and another "1st class" class countries treat with contempt other countries that have been exploited by them to their own benefit.