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A technical question for the fridgies.
I was given a Brass Monkey 12v fridge a while back and it ran fine. However, recently it's blown supply fuses immediately upon switch on. I can't get it fixed under warranty by Jaycar because the lady who gave it to me tossed the purchase receipt.
Measurements indicate a short to ground on the positive line. Jaycar have no technical info on it (not unusual for Jaycar).
I pulled it apart and found the compressor is driven by an electronic control board. I didn't want to buy a replacement without further checks and this is where I'm confused.
The start and run windings both measure 0.1 ohm to common but info on the 'net only talks about DC resistance of mains powered compressors and suggest 12-15 ohms. The compressor is a ZH25G (probably generic.)
I don't think this is the whole story. I wonder if a DC resistance measurement is inappropriate and if I should be looking at AC impedance. I suspect the controller generates an AC power source from the 12v and, if the frequency is high enough, the windings will have sufficient impedance so as to not present a short circuit to the supply.
If this is the case, I'd be willing to buy a new controller. I doubt I can fix the old controller. I'm not even sure how one would test one.
So, I guess my question is - is the 0.1 ohm resistance OK? If the fridge needs a new compressor, I doubt it's worth repairing unless one is a fridgie.
Ron B.
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						Super ModeratorIt's highly likely the compressor is fine. The control board would have gone pop and may have dumped the incoming voltage directly across the compressor terminals, but the fuse would have saved it.
The compressor won't have start and run windings. If it's anything like most of the others it'll be 3 pins with 3 windings wired star or delta. So without a decent milliohm meter you're effectively measuring a short between all 3 pins.
Plenty of info on the net on the compressor you referenced. Random choice here : ToxicAntidote - 12v fridge rebuild
If your control box is like that one you may have luck repairing it. Highly likely it's one or more of the output stages gone short.
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What Brad said is the go.
Do all three windings have the same resistence?
If so it points to the comp being OK,electrically,that is if it has no leakage to earth.
If the lady that gave you the fridge bought it on a Credit Card,using her statement,they may accept it is under waranty.
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						Super ModeratorJust had a cruise around E-bay and there's a pile of control boxes for 12/24/48V dc fridge compressors for around $70.
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Thanks Brad.
Yes, I'd found info on the compressor but nothing about winding resistance. I does have the standard 3 pins. A number of sites call them start and run windings, others indicate a star or delta configuration.
I had read the Toxic Antidote page but I wasn't going to do what he did. His controller board is completely different (except for connections). The control panel in the Brass Monkey is a separate unit.
Mine uses surface mount 078ROND N-Channel MOSFETs which aren't that expensive. https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/10050...yAdapt=glo2bra
I'm not sure how to check them just in case one or more is shot. I've never worked with surface mount components nor much with MOSFETs. I'll just look for shorts between the MOSFET pins.
AliExpress have the controller https://pt.aliexpress.com/i/10050060...yAdapt=glo2bra
(Dunno why AliExpress always returns hits in Portuguese.)
That page notes:which is why I thought of impedance, not resistance.Compressor Efficiency: The 12v variable frequency refrigerator compressor optimizes performance and saves energy.
Ron B.
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