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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I was planning to blast her with the Lightforces but other drivers got to her first.
    I have heard of people being booked for blocking the fast lane. I believe there is a rule you're supposed to keep left unless overtaking on any multi-lane road even if it's not signposted. This is an example of the good driving habits I would like to see given more attention by the road safety authorities. Fining people for failing to keep left and for blocking faster traffic might do more to improve road safety than harassing people for minor speed breaches, I think.

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    There is a rule, it's called rechtsfahrgebot (linksfahrgebot?). You're right, but Australia just isn't on that level of higher order thinking. Easier to throw out a simplistic "speed kills" line than some root cause analysis...

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    True. The mindless nongs who edit our Tabloid News make our rules for us and we comply.
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    On a multi lane road you must keep left unless overtaking, or leaving the road, where the speed limit is above 80kph or where otherwise signposted.

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    I see a study has found that speed contributed to 22% of road fatalities in Queensland.
    I thought it would have been higher, so I took this result to mean that speed was not as big a contributor to fatalities as other causes, such as alcohol, drugs, dangerous driving, defective vehicles, bad roads etc.
    However, it is being argued that the 22% result means there should be more hidden speed cameras. I don't follow that logic. Maybe its just an easy option, compared with other options, which contributed to 78% of deaths, but are more difficult to overcome. It's easier to point a hidden radar at a vehicle than to train a bad driver to be a good driver. Radar is certainly cheaper than building better roads. Sounds like a cop out to me.
    What do you think?


    Queensland Police to consider using more hidden speed cameras after auditor's report - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Speed is always a factor in a MVI...

    Stationary objects can not collide.

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    Yes it is a cop out. It raises money as apposed to spending it.
    It's a pity the money raised isn't spent on Driver Education.
    Having said that: One of my brothers is a Rider Educator and he just had several bones broken, ignoring one of his own rules. The other driver will cop the blame but really..? Speed was well under the limit for both parties but of course it did determine the outcome.
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    I just paid my speeding fine,, I can get the car registered again now

    I think driver education is a major factor, or lack there of.
    The other thing I think makes no sense is why they don't have "real"' punishment for this caught drink or drug driving. A slap on the wrist is hardly going to make anyone of those concerned deter from doing it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I see a study has found that speed contributed to 22% of road fatalities in Queensland.
    if you look at what they mean by speed, they mean going too fast for the conditions.
    example: your on a road signposted as 60.
    its raining, you go round a corner at 40 and lose control.

    you were not speeding, you were doing 40 in a 60 zone.
    you were going too fast (excess speed) for the conditions.

    the report will say your crash was caused by speed.
    the govt then says, "speed kills" and goes off and targets people who are speeding.

    see the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    if you look at what they mean by speed, they mean going too fast for the conditions.
    example: your on a road signposted as 60.
    its raining, you go round a corner at 40 and lose control.

    you were not speeding, you were doing 40 in a 60 zone.
    you were going too fast (excess speed) for the conditions.

    the report will say your crash was caused by speed.
    the govt then says, "speed kills" and goes off and targets people who are speeding.

    see the difference?
    Yep, I do. A better trained and more experienced driver would be less likely to have that crash because that driver would know to slow down and drive to the conditions, not the speed limit. So, driver training, not speed fining, is the answer, except in cases of excessive speed well above the limits. Some drivers are unsafe at any speed, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    So, driver training, not speed fining, is the answer,


    yes
    but that would cost money
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