Thread: Cyclists.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Is it? I've not seen it. The onlt sign I see is and there is nothing in the road rules about it.

Trivially easy, there's google for that:

Using shared paths

Across NSW there are paths that can be used by both pedestrians and bicycle riders. To avoid collisions and make using these paths a pleasant experience, both pedestrians and bicycle riders need to look out for each other and follow a few simple rules.
As a bicycle rider always make sure you:

• Keep to the left.
• Give way to pedestrians, slowing down or even stopping if needed.
• Use your bell or horn, if needed, to avoid a collision.
• Be particularly careful around older pedestrians, young children and dogs as they are often unpredictable.

Always travel at a speed that promotes safety for you and the pedestrians you encounter.
When walking on a shared path be aware that cyclists can travel much faster and may suddenly appear around a corner or behind you.
As a pedestrian make sure you:

• Keep to the left.
• Move off the path to the left if you wish to stop.
• Keep animals on short leads and under control

Bicycle Information NSW?|?Cyclists - the rules and your rights

I'm sure if you search other states would have similar sensible rules.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Trivially easy, there's google for that:



Bicycle Information NSW?|?Cyclists - the rules and your rights

I'm sure if you search other states would have similar sensible rules.

NSW do a lot of things oddly. Football for example.
Where is the road rule for Victoria, what is the fine and how many demerit points do you get slapped with?

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

NSW do a lot of things oddly. Football for example.
Where is the road rule for Victoria, what is the fine and how many demerit points do you get slapped with?

Oooh, lookit: Victorians need help with learning what "shared" means:

RACV supports Sharing Roads and Paths guide launch - RACV

[ame]http://www.amygillett.org.au/assets/Sharing-roads-and-paths-accessible-online-document-050713-FINAL.pdf[/ame]

Pedestrians
? when you hear or see bicycle riders, keep left to allow them to pass safely
? move off the path if you want to stop
? encourage children to keep left when sharing paths

As for the bolded bit, I really do hope you get over this unhealthy obsession with revenge.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Is it? I've not seen it. The onlt sign I see is and there is nothing in the road rules about it.

Here you go Mick, its on every shared path in my area.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Oooh, lookit: Victorians need help with learning what "shared" means:

RACV supports Sharing Roads and Paths guide launch - RACV

http://www.amygillett.org.au/assets/...0713-FINAL.pdf

Recommendation by a cycling organisation (Amy Gillet Foundation). No surprise there.
It's not a road rule.

Originally Posted by bee utey

As for the bolded bit, I really do hope you get over this unhealthy obsession with revenge.

So you think all traffic infringements should not attract a fine or demerit points. I'll agree with you there.
I don't think the police would.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

NSW do a lot of things oddly. Football for example.
...

Hang on there every code of "football" that was traditionally played in NSW is played elsewhere in the World, that aerial ping pong infection we acquired from Victoria is only played in Australia. When they want to play overseas they can only play with Ireland and have to play it with different set of rules!

Go Swans!

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

WA premier Colin Barnett is back in the news on the subject of cyclists.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/~/wa premier-says-cyclists-in-groups-causing-problems-on-roads/

Colin's not a fan of cyclists. But saying that he does live in the wealthier western suburbs where the road infrastructure is outdated. There are a higher proportion of cyclists and a lot of the residents in these areas are wealthy and highly successful. In other words no matter the mode of transport everyone thinks they are the most important person on the road. That's never a good thing.

The solution?

I'm sure there will be a number who don't agree with me but I'll say it anyway. Please bear in mind this is from a commuter cyclist's point of view.

There needs to be consideration given to banning cyclists from certain sections of certain roads (much like how it is on Roe Hwy). One road that comes to mind is Albany Hwy especially through Bentley. This road is a nightmare at the best of times. At work some of us refer to Albany Hwy as 'organ doner' because the lanes are simply not wide enough to ride on and be overtaken safely. Traffic is so bad that cars find it extremely difficult to move into the other lane to overtake.

If I'm driving to work I will use Albany Hwy but if I'm riding to work I'll use the paths and the back roads that run along the railway line. There is not a huge difference in km's and there is much less traffic. We have been provided with an alternative route so people should use it. It's a win-win situation.

I'm not sure what the alternative routes are for Canning and Stirling Hwy's - never needed to consider that coz I'm not that rich or successful and never intend to be.

Another solution to the problem would be to ban cyclists from certain areas within specified timeframes. Sounds far-fetched but considering that cars are banned from driving in certain lanes during peak hour so the lanes can be freed up for buses, it wouldn't be impossible.

To me main roads should be ridden on as little as possible and only if there is no other alternative. That's the attitude I take because I'd rather be alive than take a route that may get me there 15 minutes quicker.

There are times in my journey like when going through a squeeze point where I may take the lane. This is for my own safety and not to upset motorists and hold them up for an extra 5 seconds however, I figure if they want to go fast then they should use the main roads rather than the back streets. I'm sure the majority of motorists prefer that cyclists do this rather than ride on the main roads. By using this route I've found that most motorists are quite good. Many are extra courteous and wave us through even when they have right of way. Sometimes we wave cars through when it's our right of way. I believe in road karma and have found that the more courtesy I given the more I receive in return.

Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket

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road infrastructure is outdated.

There needs to be consideration given to banning cyclists from certain sections of certain roads...

... use the paths and the back roads... There is not a huge difference in km's and there is much less traffic.... an alternative route so people should use it. It's a win-win situation.


Another solution to the problem would be to ban cyclists from certain areas within specified time frames...considering that cars are banned from driving in certain lanes during peak hour so the lanes can be freed up for buses, it wouldn't be impossible.

...main roads should be ridden on as little as possible and only if there is no other alternative....rather be alive than take a route that may get me there 15 minutes quicker.

...the majority of motorists prefer that cyclists do this rather than ride on the main roads. By using this route I've found that most motorists are quite good. Many are extra courteous and wave us through even when they have right of way. Sometimes we wave cars through when it's our right of way.

I believe in road karma and have found that the more courtesy I given the more I receive in return.

All good points Rocket. Thanks.

One more, if you don't have a bell or mirror, wake up and get them, don't be that idiot without