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5th February 2018, 09:23 PM
DiscoMick

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Many of the more serious problems can be solved using the 45/70 equation...

Balancing crime vs Gaol vs treatment will never be an easy equation.

Some crimes however should have mortality penalties.
- Pre-meditated murder (eye for an eye)
- Pedophiles
- Serial rapists

Gaols should have only the most basic of human rights.
- Food
- Bed
- Clean Water

No TV
No Internet
No luxury items
Restricted visitation relative to crime convicted.

Stop making Gaol a holiday camp, start making it unattractive to be there and we may start to see some changes.

I've been in jails and I can guarantee they are not holiday camps.
5th February 2018, 10:02 PM
rammypluge

My impression is that gaols are animalistic environments with predation, bullying, gangs, violence, threats, low IQ's, mental health issues, deals, exploitation, etc........

These are possibly the biggest factors that would keep me out. Its all too tedious.
5th February 2018, 10:28 PM
Tombie

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammypluge

My impression is that gaols are animalistic environments with predation, bullying, gangs, violence, threats, low IQ's, mental health issues, deals, exploitation, etc........

These are possibly the biggest factors that would keep me out. Its all too tedious.

Sounds like a Collingwood supporter [emoji48][emoji56]

But seriously - they still give them TVs, Internet, let them smoke, let them have visitors and other niceties.
All of this should be removed.

Also, no outside goods - just a photo of the family at most (a reminder of who is missing in their life)... nothing else that’s not supplied by the Gaol...

And they need to be put to work...
6th February 2018, 07:20 AM
tact

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombie

Sounds like a Collingwood supporter [emoji48][emoji56]

But seriously - they still give them TVs, Internet, let them smoke, let them have visitors and other niceties.
All of this should be removed.

Also, no outside goods - just a photo of the family at most (a reminder of who is missing in their life)... nothing else that’s not supplied by the Gaol...

And they need to be put to work...

I think a couple of us have posited that for a mandatory 14 day incarceration for drink/drug driving - a full on high security gaol complete with hardened crims is hardly needed. Just being unable to sleep in your own bed, being missing from work, etc... thats going to really make regular folks rethink the serious need for a plan B when drinking.
6th February 2018, 11:06 AM
BMKal

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I've been in jails and I can guarantee they are not holiday camps.

Yeah .................. just like you can guarantee that judges and magistrate apply realistic sentencing, or that they follow strict guidelines when sentencing.

Forgive me for being sceptical. :lol2::no2:
6th February 2018, 12:52 PM
DiscoMick

They do follow strict guidelines, that's just a fact. It's very tightly controlled.
6th February 2018, 01:01 PM
trout1105

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

They do follow strict guidelines, that's just a fact. It's very tightly controlled.

Maybe the "Guidelines" need to be tightened up a lot more because at the moment there is Far too much "Wriggle Room" available to the judiciary.
6th February 2018, 01:34 PM
DeanoH

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Originally Posted by trog

Here is an idea. Once convicted and sentenced , the miscreant is placed into a medical coma. Just a bit of liquid feed , and a monitor. Easy to warehouse many in i smaller space . In the mean time they can provide an on tap source of blood for the blood banks. The lifers can not only do this , but as they won't be getting out again , they can be tissue typed for organ donation to those on the outside. Severe enough ?

Luxury ...................

Four Yorkshiremen- Monty Python - YouTube

You forgot the 'Soylent Green' option.

Deano :)
6th February 2018, 02:24 PM
tact

Quote:

Originally Posted by trog

Here is an idea. Once convicted and sentenced , the miscreant is placed into a medical coma. Just a bit of liquid feed , and a monitor. Easy to warehouse many in i smaller space . In the mean time they can provide an on tap source of blood for the blood banks. The lifers can not only do this , but as they won't be getting out again , they can be tissue typed for organ donation to those on the outside. Severe enough ?

I like how you think..... [bigwhistle]

[edit: A side benefit is that in the event that the conviction is overturned at some later date, the wrongly incarcerated can be given a good apology, bandaids, and remuneration for all harvested organs, bile, stem cells, and blood. Then return to society a happy camper.]
6th February 2018, 02:55 PM
DiscoMick

Quote:

Originally Posted by trog

Here is an idea. Once convicted and sentenced , the miscreant is placed into a medical coma. Just a bit of liquid feed , and a monitor. Easy to warehouse many in i smaller space . In the mean time they can provide an on tap source of blood for the blood banks. The lifers can not only do this , but as they won't be getting out again , they can be tissue typed for organ donation to those on the outside. Severe enough ?

Don't hold back. Let's just grind people up into fertiliser and spread them on our gardens. After all, they're only people...

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