Reply With QuoteIt appears that this bloke was out on parole (which he had already breached) So it looks like our justice system has failed us yet again and this young woman has paid the ultimate price for the justice system letting this bloke out of jail.
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SubscriberWell, he surrendered, & is under arrest. The person living in the unit " who didn't know who he was ", has been charged with an accessory after the fact to murder. There seems to be much more than meets the eye with this one. be interesting to see how it unfolds. Well done Qld. Police
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I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food
A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
OldBushie
SupporterIt appears that this bloke was out on parole (which he had already breached) So it looks like our justice system has failed us yet again and this young woman has paid the ultimate price for the justice system letting this bloke out of jail.
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If he had breached (not sure of the specifics) then by law he is required to go back to jail. The judicial system works.Originally Posted by trout1105
If he was still out despite warrants then its the cops that failed here not the judicial system. At least thats how i read it.
OldBushie
SupporterIf he had been kept in jail the coppers wouldn't have had to look for him in the first place, The parole system failed here NOT the police.
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I dont think you understand why the system is in place.
Imagine for a second we dont have parole right. So when people finish there time there "free to go" and do whatever they want.
As it currently stands people freed from prison do a parole period where they have to sign in and are to some extent watched over.
This generally allows them to monitor the progress of said released prisoner. If you just send em out with no cares the same thing will happen i assure you. More so as we wont know where the x prisoners are!
This same person likely would have offended after he served his total time parole or no parole.
The parole system is made for a reason. And its not to give the crims a break! Its to monitor progress and limit movement.
ChatterBox
In the long run I think might be cheaper to find the genes that are responsible for bad behaviour,. Then those carriers can be aborted before birth. Result a nice homogeneous society where each and all are nice and good.
I think its time for me to butt out of this conversation. Enjoy.
Last edited by DAMINK; 1st July 2018 at 08:19 AM. Reason: My reply was inappropriate.
ForumSage
SubscriberJesus this thread. Come on surely our society is better than this. It's not genetics...
It must be nice to be able to see the world so simply in black and white - Lock up and throw away the key or better still kill all crims. Let's not trouble ourselves by people's backgrounds and for that matter mental illness. Let's also not let facts that are often only known to Judges and Parole Boards stand in the way of one eyed headline grabbing shout outs by people who often dont know all the facts and haven't even slipped on the moccasins much less walked a mile in them. Fair dinkhum this surely isnt what Australia has become? Thankfully I know it hasn't because of the people I work with but I do shake my head at this thread.
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I can't keep quiet any longer! Our legal and justice systems are drawn from the deep end of the gene pool. They study law for five years to acquire a basic qualification. As the cream of these above average people float to the top, QCs, Silks, Magistrates and Judges are selected. I'll place my faith in these highly qualified and informed professionals, rather than the click bait reading truck drivers from WA, phone salesmen from SA or storemen from Queensland!
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Swaggie
Sorry, Ian, but you should be listening to the click bait reading truck drivers from WA, phone salesmen from SA or storemen from Queensland. Why? Because they are part of the community is which you live.
You see, the law is supposed to reflect community expectations and values.
Let's go back to the start point.
There are two principal features of the rule of law.
*The people (including the government) should be ruled by the law and obey it.
*The law should be such that the people will be able and willing to be ruled (or guided) by it.
i.e. all people are equal in the eyes of the law and the law reflects the peoples values and expectations.
What we have seen in many cases (which is why I suspect Mr Pickles started this thread) is the judiciary appears to be out of touch with the community. Also, from a few of the cases that have hit the headlines, some are more equal than others.
I'll end this post with a quote from Nicholas Cowdery AM QC which supports both what you are saying AND what I am saying. It is a requirement to be met before it can be said that the rule of law is truly in operation in any jurisdiction.
The law must be and remain reasonably in accordance with informed public opinion and general social values and there must be some mechanism (formal or informal) for ensuring that, In a democracy it is essential that there be continuing consultation between the lawmakers and the community. The legislature makes laws for the community – so those laws should be what the community wants. The difficulty, of course, is in reflecting informed public opinion and general social values, not the opinions and values of noisy elements of the society that may not be generally held. (Talkback radio is not a sound basis on which to fashion laws!)
Unless this requirement is fulfilled, the consent of the governed, on which the effective enforcement of the law is essentially dependent, will not be forthcoming.
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