Thread: Law & Order is STUFFED.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

Bob, public housing is nothing to do with Centrelink. This is a state matter. Used to be called Queensland Housing Commission. The problem is that a high percentage of public housing tenants are also Centrelink clients, sole parents, disability pensioners, unemployed. Centrelink pay financial support to those eligible but do not provide housing or even intercede with the state housing authority on behalf of mutual clients. Different sides of the street. For decades now state housing have no longer been building estates or suburbs which practice had created ghettos. Policy nowadays is to scatter public housing throughout the suburbs.

Thanks for the heads up. It's unfortunate that it seems all of the tenants are long term Centrelink customers. Either way, there is a major problem here. I know about housing commission. When we moved to Brisbane from Rockhampton in the late 50's, we moved into a housing commission house in Stafford Heights, Ogden St. with my Mothers Mother. 3 Families in the one house. A lot of love, and discipline, kept us kids on the straight and narrow. Talk on the ground is this at Kipparing, is a ghetto. Could be just an urban myth, but the talk is strong. Could be on A Current Affair in the future.

Maybe they should go back to "public housing Ghetto's".

It doesn't seem to matter where some of these people are, they cause trouble where ever they are housed. We've lost several tenants due to foul mouthed aggressive inconsiderate narcissistic type arseholes, who care about nothing other than themselves and what "the world OWES me" attitudes, who have been settled next door to us on several occasions.

Why should the rest of us, who work hard for what we've got, have the burden of dealing with useless scumbags put there so they don't all congregate together "in the ghetto"??. They bring with them their friends who are every bit as bad, and run rife around the district/street with no care or respect to anyone in the area. The hardest part was living 400K away and not being able to deal with it myself. You just get a call or email saying tenants have moved on,,, geez, great, have to come up with another whole house payment for a few weeks-months whilst they try and find people suitable to move in.

Having said that, of course they're not all bad, it's really only a small percentage. Behind work, we watched a very young girl enter one of these houses,, she herself, was really really good. Right up until the ex found her and gave her and her friends a heap of grief. Although, alot of what seemed to be her own friends were just as rough and loud and obnoxious as the ex's friends,, who seemed to always be with him for support in one way or another.

People sit there and give all the excuses under the sun,, upbringing, lack of work, drugs etc,, bla bla bla. Its all bull****. Take responsibility for your own actions and show some discipline within the confines of your life, and others around you. There is a thing called "The Pecking Order",, its a system,, Work with the system, not against it. The problem is though,, they dont care,, they dont give a rats arse about anyone or anything. They owe the world nothing, but it owes them everything. This is what they have been taught,, by parents, family, school, whoever opens their mouth at them.
Spare the rod and spoil the child,,, yeah,, like hows that working out for us now??

Well said Chops, sometimes the truth hurts.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by trout1105

I imagine her defence lawyer is proud of that, I dont know how these buggers can sleep at night because it doesnt look like justice has been served here.
The best place for this stupid sheila is in jail anyway maybe she could dry out a bit and i imagine that the family of the deceased is digusted with this weak effort.

Yet again you and I dont know the facts just some grab. Anyway as to the Defence lawyer it's all about balance. If you were charged with something serious that you were not guilty of (or had mitigating factors) you would go tits up very quickly unless you had one of these buggers. You will likely get back to me and say no if I was guilty I would take it like a man and not retain a lawyer....go to prison for life for dangerous driving causing death from momentary inattention. Oh well...come the revolution. We all know lawyers are to blame trout. They are also largely to blame for safe workplaces if you ever enjoyed those.

Cheers

Originally Posted by bob10

Thanks for the heads up. It's unfortunate that it seems all of the tenants are long term Centrelink customers. Either way, there is a major problem here. I know about housing commission. When we moved to Brisbane from Rockhampton in the late 50's, we moved into a housing commission house in Stafford Heights, Ogden St. with my Mothers Mother. 3 Families in the one house. A lot of love, and discipline, kept us kids on the straight and narrow. Talk on the ground is this at Kipparing, is a ghetto. Could be just an urban myth, but the talk is strong. Could be on A Current Affair in the future.

If there is a problem in a particular housing estate which is most likely a private sector development then you can often sheet it back to the land sharks and real estate criminals who have sold these jerry built suburbs to investors with two year rental guarantees of rent above true market levels. The properties are overpriced and force sold to (overseas & interstate) investors who don't know the real value. The overpricing is used to subsidise rents for the period of the guarantee. They love Centrelink clients as the rent is deducted from welfare payments using the Centrepay scheme and paid direct to the agents who in turn deduct their commission and pass on the balance to Victoria, Taiwan, Singapore.

By the way, Ogden St. and surrounds in the 60's was a very rough and tough area. I worked for the gas company briefly then and had to do disconnects and reconnects, and remove meter and close off service at main to stop the customers illegally hooking up and getting free gas. Grovely, Chermside, Stafford were housing commission and we did a lot of work in these.

Originally Posted by ozscott

They are also largely to blame for safe workplaces if you ever enjoyed those.

That is not what the unions say.

Oh. I work in a "safe" workplace. Yep, it's good.
I work in an office, sitting in front of a computer, wearing hi-vis, steel capped safety boots, safety glasses and ear plugs. OK, so I don't actually wear the safety glasses and ear plugs unless I go outside or visit any other areas of the plant, but I'm supposed to.

Oh, and this safe plant may be closing down and production shifting off shore. You see, we can't compete against overseas factories that regularly have the odd industrial death or two.

Never mind. I'll just sell up, go on the dole and rent next to Mr chops to make his life hell.

Originally Posted by ozscott

Yet again you and I dont know the facts just some grab. Anyway as to the Defence lawyer it's all about balance.factors) you If you were charged with something serious that you were not guilty of (or had mitigating would go tits up very quickly unless you had one of these buggers. You will likely get back to me and say no if I was guilty I would take it like a man and not retain a lawyer....go to prison for life for dangerous driving causing death from momentary inattention. Oh well...come the revolution. We all know lawyers are to blame trout. They are also largely to blame for safe workplaces if you ever enjoyed those.

Cheers

So, in that scenario, the prosecuting lawyers are the culprits then, yes?

Safe workplaces come mainly from legal intervention and 1 main thing.... It being too costly for companies to ignore safety. The reason it's too costly is that lawyers for decades have sued and pushed for courts to decide that employers duty covered all manner of contingencies and was non-delegable....and with assessments of quantum that suited the loss. Cheers