Thread: Am I Too Sensitive?

It's a bit like the crud that Toyotas built the Snowy etc. Actually, the Landys did the first eight years of hard work and there were hundreds of them there before the first Toyota even arrived, and it didn't even have low range. Apparently after that the Landys continued to be used for the hard work and the Toyotas were just office runabouts. Check the threads in the Land Rover History section of this site for lots more information about that.

Originally Posted by bln

In the last Pat Callinans 4x4 magazine (issue 028) there was a great letter to the editor "Land Rover Loyal". Basically the letter was about a bloke who has been very happy with the many land rovers that he has had in the past. The editor (Scott) responded with something like "its great to hear from a Land Rover Tragic (most of them involving mechanical repairs)...." . Well that's like a red rag to a bull for me. Ive owned 5 land rovers now over the years and I have never had any sort of reliability issues. The odd repairs required from time to time but no more than you'd expect from any other type of 4x4.
Are the 4x4 mags perpetuating an untruth and misrepresenting Land Rover? On what grounds do they claim LR to be unreliable - where is the evidence?. As far as know, and from my experience they are solid reliable 4x4s that excell at there intended use.
I own a small business and I had 3 hiluxs and 2 prados - we had continual problems with them - oil leaks, gearbox overheating, tail shaft faults, recalls as wel l as faulty injectors. These are well known faults so why aren't journalists critical of Toyotas? We have since moved to colorados and our running costs have significantly dropped. I personally traded in my prado for a D4 and the difference is like chalk and cheese.
So my question is - should we be tolerating false journalism or am I just too sensitive? Should Land Rover be tolerating false statements.
I could go on rambling but i look forward to reading what others think.
cheers

Hi I have had D3 for 7 years and now a D4 for 2 years which is a 2010 model very reliable no major issues in snow leaves all others behind 3 months of the year. I don't know how they can say they are unreliable not true.
Cheers

I've lived in some of the most remote places in Australia - which means some of the most remote places in the world. The only vehicles that survive these extreme conditions of high temperatures, high humidity, constant rain for months followed by constant dry for months, are landrovers. Everything else (Toyos) flog out, break down and basically disintegrate. My last LR (before I got the recent Defender) was a series II stubbie 2.25 petrol. When I bought it locally, I doubt it'd had an oil change in about 15 years (thick and black like molasses) let alone anything else, and yet it started first kick, and everything worked. It was just phenomenal that any vehicle could be so abused, mistreated, unmaintained and yet still run like a sowing machine! I drove that SII for 5 years and never spent a dollar on it other than changing the oils and filters. It towed my boat, it carried 20 locals in the back, got me through river crossings in the wet, carried pallets of XXXX when the boat came in, rescued tourists when they got stranded in their new LCs, Prados and Pajeros and never once, not ONCE let me down. I'll never forget that little beast! Unreliable? - not in my experience.

Originally Posted by 350RRC

Supposedly over 50% of all the Landrovers ever built are still going.

DL

Still going or still registered?

I remember a mechanic in Weipa saying he was making a good living replacing front suspensions in mine Hiluxes because they were only lasting a year or so on the local tracks.
He had a tourist Jeep Wrangler that had been there for a week waiting for front suspension parts.
The broken flexible coupling in my exhaust was repaired the same day because it was a standard part.

Every motoring mag, hack or whatever that relies on car manufacturers for advertising revenue is going to be a biased load of crap. Jaguar Land Rover prolly dont advertise that much so it doesnt matter. I bet there is no bagging when it comes to the fat VW or Audi, dont want to loose that fat cow or the juicy all expenses trip to germany to "test drive" the latest VW.

I generally say to people that have a crack at Land Rover or Jeep, comments generally come from people that have never owned a Land Rover or Jeep, have never worked on a Land Rover or Jeep.......... so really their opinion accounts for ****.

Empty vessels make the most noise

Regards
Daz

Anyway, if this isn't appropriate the mods can delete/modify.

Keep your eyes open for a new emag that will hit the web on the 1/11/17.

It'll be as unbiased as possible for us humans in that quite a few will recognise some of the production team and a columnist or two as long time AULRO contributors.

Originally Posted by craig a

Here is a good story. A mate of mine was looking to buy a 4wd. He loved the D4 I had and wanted one. His other mates and online research had advised him they were unreliable and if they break down you face a massive towing cost and repair bill he 8wouldnt afford after buying the car. Despite my efforts he ended up buying a Toyo -here is the story when I asked how it was going (but he thinks it is a good car):

As for car - disaster! Have loved it and looked after it for the 9 months. Did a 4WD training course and done some light off-roading (my daughter gets terrified on the most simple tracks) and bought a hardcore off-roading camper trailer. Spent heaps on the car and camper - new suspension and lift, winch, AT Toyo tyres, spotlights, roof rack, full servicing etc. then had first first proper trip planned to Grampians for Easter. Get 250kms out of Adelaide towing the camper and engine dies. Mechanic tries replacing injectors and then tells me the engine is stuffed and gives me a bill for 2.5k! Tow car back to Adelaide and now getting quotes for whole new long motor. With some family connections for cheaper Toyota parts I might be able to do it for around $12.5k. Awesome. Anyway I have to fix it and hope the damn thing doesn't do it again. Lost all confidence in the vehicle though which is really sad as it is a really good vehicle (apart from the injector system which causes the engine failure!).

It's funny how many people new to 4WDriving do this, instead of just doing a few trips with the money.