Thread: "Demerit" Points.

Originally Posted by DeeJay

Yes, but in this case the "kids" are adults as the zone is around Holmesglen Tafe & the local shopping strip.
It is after a downhill run & a very controversial speed camera as it gains one of the highest income of all cameras in Vic
You would be unlikely to see an unattended child there - I never have.
The reason it is controversial? Warrigal road is a major arterial in Melb. Attached pic of the intersection ( cameras since upgraded from Red light to multi red & speed) the camera is below the Maccas sign & 40kph zone extends beyond the rail bridge and it was never a accident hot spot prior.
Would you think doing 60 along here is dangerous? The downhill slope is a bit hard to gauge from the pic..
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The rags to riches tale of the Chadstone speed cameras

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Pickles.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Interesting articles. just supports the premise speeding fines are just a form of indirect taxation.

Not like the 60 or so who claimed the spped camera are faulty whom were found to all have been actually speeding?

It is an optional tax. Speed and you pay it- I did ( no more for me) Smoke and you pay it, Drink wine, beer, spirits we pay it.

Blaming the govenment for our choices is not in my view at all reasonable. I am no saint. Know for some rather high speed long runs on a motor bike as well as megga high speed run in a Skyhawk once

2003-2012 Fatalities and serious injuries Over the last ten years on average:

• 47 pedestrians were killed in Victoria each year
• more than 690 pedestrians were seriously injured in Victoria each year.

Stats below however suggest it is a form of almost euthinasia with most 70+ year olds hogging the fatality lists with over 33% .

Pedestrian statistics - TAC - Transport Accident CommissionThey also show a significant reduction after the introduction of 40kph zones

I would be very happy to see higher speed limits on many roads. Not near or around schools as honestly the few but highly noticeable pathetic and selfish drivers I see often at schools need much more than a little fine. Voluntry tax people Star Weekly | Police catch speeding drivers near schools My tin foil hat is on for the feed back

Guess what Pickles? I agree with you this time. Hows that?
Speed limits should not be set by Governments but by a Standards Commission.
Fines are an utterly inequitable form of punishment.
The points system could do with an overhaul as well.
While we're at it: Speed humps should be eradicated. The most ridiculously illogical device for traffic calming.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Not like the 60 or so who claimed the spped camera are faulty whom were found to all have been actually speeding?

It is an optional tax. Speed and you pay it- I did ( no more for me) Smoke and you pay it, Drink wine, beer, spirits we pay it.

Blaming the govenment for our choices is not in my view at all reasonable. I am no saint. Know for some rather high speed long runs on a motor bike as well as megga high speed run in a Skyhawk once

2003-2012 Fatalities and serious injuries Over the last ten years on average:

• 47 pedestrians were killed in Victoria each year
• more than 690 pedestrians were seriously injured in Victoria each year.

Stats below however suggest it is a form of almost euthinasia with most 70+ year olds hogging the fatality lists with over 33% .

Pedestrian statistics - TAC - Transport Accident CommissionThey also show a significant reduction after the introduction of 40kph zones

I would be very happy to see higher speed limits on many roads. Not near or around schools as honestly the few but highly noticeable pathetic and selfish drivers I see often at schools need much more than a little fine. Voluntry tax people Star Weekly | Police catch speeding drivers near schools My tin foil hat is on for the feed back

I sometimes wonder what the Statistics would be if every street or road was at the bottom of a 60 Meter precipice rimmed by the curb, and pedestrian crossings were populated by nasty little Trolls who like pushing people off.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Guess what Pickles? I agree with you this time. Hows that?
Speed limits should not be set by Governments but by a Standards Commission.
Fines are an utterly inequitable form of punishment.
The points system could do with an overhaul as well.
While we're at it: Speed humps should be eradicated. The most ridiculously illogical device for traffic calming.

Aren't speed limits set by committees of representatives of police, ambos, firies, main roads, local councils and others?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Aren't speed limits set by committees of representatives of police, ambos, firies, main roads, local councils and others?

A Camel is a Horse designed by a Committee.

Speed limitation is really a job for experts, not for a gaggle of opinionated Gees.

Example: The speed limit in Balmain and half of Rozelle is 40 Ks. In the other half of Rozelle, it's 50 Ks, despite conditions being identical. In Liberty St Stanmore (Where nobody dares go faster than 30Ks} it's 60 Ks despite even worse conditions.
Do you get my drift?

Do you get my drift?

No "Drifting" here Mate . I stick to the speed limits

Originally Posted by trout1105

No "Drifting" here Mate . I stick to the speed limits

can easily drift and not break the speed limit