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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Er haven't you not included replacement cost of batteries after 8-10 years?

    In fact AFAIR , you have already had to replace some batteries.
    if you are talking Tesla, there are also pretty frequent brake replacements and also failures of batteries eg the 400KK article was on its third set of batteries at about $50k each.

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    Well, speaking from my very own experience, brakes aren't an issue as they are rarely needed. Slowing down in an electric vehicle is mostly done by means of using the 'motor brake', charging the batteries at the same time. Tesla offers an 8 years unlimited warranty on battery and all components, but there are not many having troubles with theirs. My vehicle's battery has lost ca 1% of its capacity after 31/2 years and about 150k kms. And, btw, haven't had any need to change brake pads or discs yet .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojo View Post
    Well, speaking from my very own experience, brakes aren't an issue as they are rarely needed. Slowing down in an electric vehicle is mostly done by means of using the 'motor brake', charging the batteries at the same time. Tesla offers an 8 years unlimited warranty on battery and all components, but there are not many having troubles with theirs. My vehicle's battery has lost ca 1% of its capacity after 31/2 years and about 150k kms. And, btw, haven't had any need to change brake pads or discs yet .
    So you have a Tesla, a Defender and a Discovery? Which do you like driving the most?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Also Nissan. The Leaf is the world's best-selling EV.

    And luckily for people wanting to convert old LandRovers to EV there will soon be a bountiful supply of Salvage Leafs . Their Motor has a splined output shaft & can easily be adapted to a Transfer Case or Existing gearbox.

    80kW and 280 Nm as standard, but they are under rated, no problem driving them at 100kW and they have been driven at 200kW for short bursts. ( as a comparison my EV conversion motor is a meagre 66kw 155Nm)

    Aftermarket controller boards are available for the Leaf Motor which removes the need for the BCU CAN stuff & Leaf Battery packs are already being used in DIY EV's

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    And luckily for people wanting to convert old LandRovers to EV there will soon be a bountiful supply of Salvage Leafs . Their Motor has a splined output shaft & can easily be adapted to a Transfer Case or Existing gearbox.

    80kW and 280 Nm as standard, but they are under rated, no problem driving them at 100kW and they have been driven at 200kW for short bursts. ( as a comparison my EV conversion motor is a meagre 66kw 155Nm)

    Aftermarket controller boards are available for the Leaf Motor which removes the need for the BCU CAN stuff & Leaf Battery packs are already being used in DIY EV's
    Interesting proposition.

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    Hi Guys Millennial here

    If i lived in a city and i class suburbs as city as well or a large country town where i could do all my shopping there and work was half hour drive each way roughly i would seriously look at getting an electric car as a daily runabout POS if it was similar in price range to what i was looking at.
    and since i don't buy new and the terrible resale of electric would mean its affordable hell if i could get an electric vehicle for like 2-3k id have one for in the middle of nowhere where i live just as a town run about

    But i would also have something else id have for fun ether 4x4 or something fast.

    Now probably half of all home owners in the suburbs could go electric with no issue, they travel less then 2 hours a day for work and shopping etc and go over sea's for there holidays and have off street parking where they could charge there car's.
    Chevy actually had this issue with the volt when it was first released as people where getting 7-800 mile and 6-12months per gallon and had the fuel turning to varnish and when they went to run the engine it wouldn't run as the lines where all blocked so they had to do a software update to run the engine every 50-100 miles.

    Now is electric better for the environment not really even using roof top its just moving emission's from one location to anther until they get fuel cell's going anyway.

    btw i am not a pro electric but it will be the way commuter cars will go.

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    I'm pre-millennial and would be well pleased with an electric vehicle.

    Specifically, a soft top 10 seater Series 2 or 3 converted from ICE to electric. Only needs 100km range, barely needs 80kph top speed. Would use as everyday runabout where I barely drive 10mins at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonsy View Post
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    Now is electric better for the environment not really even using roof top its just moving emission's from one location to anther until they get fuel cell's going anyway.
    Now Lyonsy , (and V8Ian) watch and learn !! And forget about affordable Fuel Cell technology , its not going to happen any time soon , Sodium Batteries will be along shortly & Fuel Cells will be a distant memory like Betamax & 8 track.




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    Quote Originally Posted by carjunkieanon View Post
    I'm pre-millennial and would be well pleased with an electric vehicle.

    Specifically, a soft top 10 seater Series 2 or 3 converted from ICE to electric. Only needs 100km range, barely needs 80kph top speed. Would use as everyday runabout where I barely drive 10mins at a time.

    Something like my conversion would suit you down to the ground . Except mine is a SWB & reg as a 2 seater . The other win is Electrics don't care if you take them on short trips . They don't need warm up time & don't need to be driven till they are hot like ICE do. Perfect for Local trips , distance to my nearest neighbouring major town and back exceeds battery range but Ive still managed to chalk up 5000km in 10 months as a daily local runabout.

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    JLR Survey 50% of Australian Millennials want Electric over ICE

    Quote Originally Posted by lyonsy View Post
    Hi Guys Millennial here

    If i lived in a city and i class suburbs as city as well or a large country town where i could do all my shopping there and work was half hour drive each way roughly i would seriously look at getting an electric car as a daily runabout POS if it was similar in price range to what i was looking at.
    and since i don't buy new and the terrible resale of electric would mean its affordable hell if i could get an electric vehicle for like 2-3k id have one for in the middle of nowhere where i live just as a town run about

    But i would also have something else id have for fun ether 4x4 or something fast.

    Now probably half of all home owners in the suburbs could go electric with no issue, they travel less then 2 hours a day for work and shopping etc and go over sea's for there holidays and have off street parking where they could charge there car's.
    Chevy actually had this issue with the volt when it was first released as people where getting 7-800 mile and 6-12months per gallon and had the fuel turning to varnish and when they went to run the engine it wouldn't run as the lines where all blocked so they had to do a software update to run the engine every 50-100 miles.

    Now is electric better for the environment not really even using roof top its just moving emission's from one location to anther until they get fuel cell's going anyway.

    btw i am not a pro electric but it will be the way commuter cars will go.
    Not sure what emissions are being moved charging your EV off rooftop solar? I’d like an explanation of that one if you could please?

    Charging from non renewables - to a point, but due to the efficiencies gained in large power stations, the amount of emissions per km compared with pouring petrol into a vehicle are dramatically reduced.

    Yes, I agree fuel cells will play a large roll in the future - along with straight EV, these 2 technologies could irradiate the ICE for ever in the not too distant future.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Yes, I agree fuel cells will play a large roll in the future - along with EV, these 2 technologies could irradiate the ICE for ever in the not too distant future.
    Nah, that's Nooclear power that does that...

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