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    Nah , plenty of people round here seem to have bucketloads of cash. More LR , Porsche audi, and masarattis than anything else. In traffic my little Astra goes just as well for a fraction of the price.

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    It seems to be mainly a bookkeeping exercise, with actual sales down about 10,000 worldwide due to China slowing, the diesel backlash and Brexit uncertainty.
    Their new diesels are actually very clean. They are also investing a lot for the future. The hybrid option on all vehicles from next year, plus the new Defender, hopefully will cause a pickup.

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    Ok so I read the first 28 ish pages of this thread and then started skimming.....

    ICE engines (yes I had to think about what that was for a few minutes) are on their way out, the time frame is.... somewhere in the future. Solar and other forms of natural power production are the way as well as battery storage. So I have a couple questions:

    Everyone is talking about the front end of the life of these things - buying and driving EV cars. So what happens at the other end of life? When the battery is dead, there are all those fancy rare metals blah blah blah that have to be disposed of? are we keeping up with the disposal of these products? pretty sure I dont want a pile of those things leaching into my water supply. The same with solar panels! I recently read a thing about some of the early solar panels that went on houses reaching end of life, they are now needing recylcing/disposal and that was apparently an issue.

    Past experiences with fancy new tech should teach us lessons for new tech, ie. keep up with what this stuff is going to do at the end of life rather than just celebrate this new fangle thing we have and worry about the consequences later.

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    My local tip has a place for leaving batteries of all types and I'm sure they'd take solar panels too. Not a problem.

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    Yes but what happens after you drop it off? does it just go in land fill??

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    Goodnight Diesel. ...Land Rover get your EV skates on!

    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    SO if LR sell around 600 000 vehicles world wide,going on above link.

    Does anyone know total Aus LR sales,say for 2018?

    I am guessing around 10 000?

    But i could be completely wrong

    Thats 1.666% of total sales?Or at 15 000 thats 2.5%

    Interesting.
    I think just over 10,000 last year here in Aus. Tiny market for them.

    In comparison Toyota sold over 200,000 units is Aus last year.

    Still better than Foton and Dodge who sold a sum total of zero vehicles between them in 2018.
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    no wonder they closed their dealer network with only 10k in sales
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    no wonder they closed their dealer network with only 10k in sales
    The poor dealer network is a massive reason why Land Rover sales are so low in Australia. ...combined with a clear lack of market spread focussing entirely on the elite, whilst Toyota offers vehicles across the full spectrum of the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    Yes but what happens after you drop it off? does it just go in land fill??
    No, panels are apparently recyclable:

    Solar panel recycler leads Australia in emerging industry | RenewEconomy
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Good reason to mine for these minerals in a first world country like Australia where miners have to at least make a token effort to protect the rest of the environment.
    Like any other profit driven corporation it will get mined in the cheapest place to the total detriment of the environment and to peoples health
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