Thread: Climate Change and our Land of Fire, Flood and Drought.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

Gravity is not a belief system, it works whether you believe in it or not.

actually it is. however the end result is that your feet are on the ground (most of the time)


science is unable to explain gravity.
faith is what keeps you from floating away. it is gods will.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

Gravity is not a belief system, it works whether you believe in it or not.

This is exactly the point, glad you raised it.
Shows how 'wrong' science can be, and we've had science on gravity for hundreds of years.
All this science was 'peer reviewed' also, confirmed, then questioned and re understood.
So now our understanding of gravity comes from the great Einstein, the type of scientist that you don't really want to question.
His proposal for what gravity is, still forms our understanding of it, yet others still dare to question it.
Not that it is, and that it just does .. but what is it and why.

Real science has the ability to allow room for questioning itself .. is it actually true, think outside the box, don't simply use the confirmation excuse of being 'peer reviewed' .. think of alternatives.
Now they've been looking at gravity from a different perspective, why it's so different to the other fundamental forces, and why does it make it so hard for a unified theory of everything .. enter quantum gravity.
The point is, even tho it's very well understood, and peer reviewed to the nth degree .. they still question it!


I can't understand why this isn't allowed in climate science. What makes climate science so special that it's peer review process is is so perfect that they 'have it right' and without question!
Only answer that can possibly account for this, is that an emotional aspect from within the science disables the ability to truly answer the anomalies in the data.
They call these anomalies local variance or some theistic term.
I have no issue per se with the emotional aspect of the science .. truly honourable that these people really care about the world and all that, but there is no room for it in a 'real science'.

So when scientists get denounced as being climate deniers .. really not helping the cause of the honourable science community.

All I'm saying is that a change of attitude is required if there is to be 'more consensus'.
That is to help comfort those on the fence doubters of the science, to force the doubters out of the debate is the wrong way to tackle the proper education of the general population.
Otherwise it'll always be a case of one side vs the other .. aka .. becomes a religion!
Forced education is not education. It need to nurture the mind and find it's place.

The 'deniers' and 'doubters' B---S--- tactic from the noble ones isn't going to work, and will never work and if they correct in their analysis of the situation, then to get this across, they need answers to the anomalies .. not "local variations"

Originally Posted by V8Ian

He made that decision, against expert advice, himself.

True to my word I had 'er indoors send the link to this computer last night & it was an article in the UK Daily Mail as it happens.

Gist of it was that the Slapper & his daughter pushed him to do the interview. The daughter was supposedly constantly in tears (probably because her cash supply was probably going to be restricted) & his 'er indoors was distressed, or some bull****. Obviously the final decision was his as he didn't appear to be handcuffed to the chair.

Edited.
Found it, in of all places, Murdoch's crap. Prince Andrew’s daughter Princess Beatrice helped set up BBC interview

This morning I found that the world had moved on overnight & that link to that article has disappeared & HRH Prince Charles popularity had increased having shown the British Public he had some 'nads after all. Ably assisted it seem by Wills who I always believed did have some 'nads.
The article may still be on their website but it could take all week to find it but I will keep trying, or thinking about it, I may not. I never liked the guy & always believed he was a wrong'un & was always on the make as history has shown.

However, all wasn't lost & I found this which may be of interest to a certain party..

Full steam ahead! Model railway that was destroyed by drunken yobs is back on track | Daily Mail Online



Hey Gav, does anyone make a Model wall for putting yobs against before shooting them with real bullets?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Those batteries are purely for grid stability...
They can’t power much - if the plant was drawing only off that battery it would last 18 seconds!

I agree, only for grid stability at this time, due to its size. The point is, energy retailers are in moving into this field. And see value in doing it, for whatever reason.

Interesting approach being trialled for grid stability.
Solar farms can keep UK’s lights on even at night | Solar power | The Guardian
Solar farms can keep UK’s lights on even at night | Environment | The Guardian


There is work going on trialling old underground mines as a water based energy storage facility. (plus hot air, compressed air, weight based kinetic storage).
Mining towards renewable energy - Mining Magazine
Mining towards renewable energy - Mining Magazine

There is so much, umm, energy, and research being put into renewable energy right now.

Originally Posted by bsperka

There is so much, umm, energy, and research being put into renewable energy right now.

You may be interested in reading about one of the largest renewable energy companies in the World, I believe. Spanish.

About ACCIONA | Sustainable Infrastructure and Renewable ...

They also are into heavy engineering projects. Brisbane cross river rail, Sth. Aus. renewable energy project. to name a couple.
Acciona in Australia.

ACCIONA in Australia | Sustainable Infrastructure and ...

In the World


ACCIONA in the world | Sustainable Infrastructure and ...

Well EVs have reached a point that I can do it.

Polarising as it is we’ve just placed an order for a Cybertruck. Due in 2021

Last week, the staff from Sky’s Outsides program, contacted BOM. They were after the latest weather temperature averages for a number of areas.


This was after the Mayor of Glen Innes stated that the drought and fires in her area had been caused by climate change and global warming.


The BOM provided the latest mean average temperatures for Australia and specifically, for Glen Innes.


They showed a very slight rise in the average temperatures since the beginning of last century.


But BOM also advised that in the 1960s, the math used to determine mean average temperature changed, and this resulted in a slightly higher mean average.


Then again in the late 90s, the the math used to determine mean average temperature changed again, and this also resulted in a slightly higher mean average.


The Outsider’s researchers asked if the new math was used on the temperature data from the turn of last century and they were told it had not and, because of the large amount of archival data that would need to be recalibrated, that it would not be feasible to do so.


Then, a few days later, the BOM contacted The Outsider’s researchers and supplied them with recalibrated archival temperature data, and it shows a marginally higher Australian Mean Average temperature at the turn of last century.


The new data also shows that Glen Innes’s temperature is actually slightly cooler now than it was at the turn of last century.


Global warming is occurring, but it is at such a meniscal rate as compared to the “alarmest” rate the doomsdays are falsely claiming.

Jeremy Clarkson finally recognises climate crisis during Asia trip

Jeremy Clarkson finally recognises climate crisis during Asia trip | Media | The Guardian