Thread: Climate Change and our Land of Fire, Flood and Drought.

That's the Indian Ocean Dipole. Warming oceans affecting the weather.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

While looking to validate the message sent by my friend re coal fired power stations planned I came across this site which is fantastic.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants

The message in the first graph is very clear.
IT'S ALL ABOUT CHINA.

China now has about 2.5 times the coal fired plant output of the USA. most of the world's output is steady or declining except China.
It is expected India will also grow expotentially.

Although the site is a WOKE site IMHO, with its projections that coal power is now at a peak, it is amazing to see the rise of China's Generation.

So why are we ruining our economy by closing coal fired power stations and not building more when it is absolutely clear that China is the cause of the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere. Is it that theuN cannot do anything about China so jawbones the only ones who are actually doing something?

Regards PhilipA

Nice resource. There's two things to note about the construction of coal plants in China:

1. It's being run by the provinces, often in direct defiance of the central government; and

2. A lot of the planned plants don't get built and those that get built don't get used. So the nameplate capacity is probably misleading.

Just a local example of climate change in the Canberra area.

The Canberra Alpine Club was formed in 1934. It built the Chalet at Mount Franklin in eastern Brindabellas 1938 at a time when very few ski clubs had their own accommodation. Members cleared several ski runs on the mountain , mostly by hand, before and soon after World War II. A small day shelter, the Slalom Hut, was built beside the main run in 1958. The Chalet and Slalom Hut were destroyed by the January 2003 fires.

The Mount Franklin Chalet was the oldest club-built ski lodge on the Australian mainland. The precinct was the northernmost site of organised skiing in Australia.

Of course there is no snow now for the Club and run to operate.

So in the 1930s there was enough consistent snow a few km west of Canberra to create a Ski Club and Ski runs and it would seem that this continued until at least the 1960s. I came to Canberra in 1990 and then for the first few years to Brindies were snow covered from May until late September each year - now just snows occasionally and the snow does not stay on the ground for long and not normally more than a day.

Local evidence of climate change (let alone temp changes) - maybe not evidence of human activity but the rate of change of changes in the climate is certainly evidence.

Garry

thanks for the info. i dont know much about wheat.

Or Jokes come to that.



Gazza. Be careful what you wish for or you may arise one morning to find you've been dumped upon by 15' of snow. No really.

Actual rain falling here. Hope it continues.

Good innit?

This part of the Adelaide Hills received a heap of rain but as the Electronic Gauge has called in cactus I can't say just how much we got in mm. Enough to need to transfer a 100 gallon tank over to our big tank 4 times though, & every bit helps. And it has gone cold again here.

i think we got 18mm

So in the 1930s there was enough consistent snow a few km west of Canberra to create a Ski Club and Ski runs and it would seem that this continued until at least the 1960s. I came to Canberra in 1990 and then for the first few years to Brindies were snow covered from May until late September each year - now just snows occasionally and the snow does not stay on the ground for long and not normally more than a day.

I think you have to consider the UHI here.

In the 30s Canberra was a tiny village.
Now it is a large city with a very active airport, suburbs reaching out to the Brindabellas, and an artificial lake which retains heat, and many many kilometers of bitumen, vs a tiny bit in 1930.

Of course there is the warming effect of fresh BS also, which is prevalent in parliament sitting times, which occur in winter.
Regrads PhilipA