Grumpy old buggers thread

[101RRS]

One may be crazy, patriotic loon, but the other (going by his son's laptop email saga - fully corroborated by the FBI) has been totally compromised by China and Ukraine (massive kickbacks), which doesn't make him a great choice for the top job either.

Don't believe what you see on Sky and Fox news.

[DiscoMick]

Don't believe what you see on Sky and Fox news.

That's right. The laptop didn't contain any criminal evidence. The FBI regards Hunter Biden as the victim in a disinformation scam intended to influence the election.

[cripesamighty]

FYI, I don't watch Sky or Fox, or much TV at all to be honest. As for the FBI, they didn't charge Hilary either, even though FBI director James Comey admitted she destroyed evidence and when pressed earlier this year, said others in the same position have gone to jail (ie. a USN submariner with a thumbdrive he forgot in his pocket with 3 sensitive files on it when he went to sea). Have a look at the Biden emails for yourself, as they aren't hard to find - just don't use Google, use duck-duck-go or another browser. The FBI didn't say it was nothing, they said the investigation was on-going since Dec 2019. Quite a few emails have been released by the New York Post (original whistleblowers) and they directly implicate Joe, his brother and Hunter in this money for access scandal with Burisma and the CCP. One of the incriminating emails (available online) was the list of initials of the % of kickbacks per person (BTW, Joe Biden was 'the big guy') and also evidence of Joe getting 13 criminal investigations on Burisma shut down in the Ukraine. There were also 26,000 emails handed over by Hunter's business partner (who was at that particular meeting) which corroborate what the media have been trying to obfuscate.

Unfortunately it's a scandal bigger than Watergate, yet the mainstream media have been running interference for the Bidens. The money for access scandal is bad, but the Mainstream and Social media censorship campaign is the worse scandal. In fact, Glenn Greenwald, the guy that Edward Snowden went to with his info, just quit from the The Intercept, the news outlet he formed to avoid censorship, because his editors tried to censor any mention of this scandal in his latest opinion piece. He has now gone to Alt-tech. Not that I like the guy, but in fairness, if Trump did this, he would already be impeached. Rules for thee, but not for me. The whole timing of the thing stinks of dirty politics and hypocracy from both sides. Yuk!

[101RRS]

The FBI regards Hunter Biden as the victim in a disinformation scam intended to influence the election.

Rudy Giuliani comes to mind.

[cripesamighty]

The contents of the three hard-drives were given to the New York Post and Rudi Guiliani quite a while ago - much later than the FBI. The timing for trickle feeding the contents after Sept 23(?), was because the candidate running for the Dems was locked in at that date and couldn't be changed. It's dirty politics all round. That's probably why my dad said never to go into politics or the clergy! I do feel for Hunter in all this though, even if he is a bit of a prat.

[JDNSW]

The laptop story is so suspect that only one paper was prepared to publish it, even among Murdoch's rags - and even the the man who wrote it was not prepared to have his name published. The fundamental flaw with the whole story is that VP Biden did not pressure the Ukraine government to fire the prosecutor to stop him prosecuting Burisma, but because he was not prosecuting Burisma. In fact, he was not prosecuting anyone (as long as they paid in cash, gold or diamonds, large quantities of which were found in his office when he was removed.)

[DiscoMick]

The laptop story is so suspect that only one paper was prepared to publish it, even among Murdoch's rags - and even the the man who wrote it was not prepared to have his name published. The fundamental flaw with the whole story is that VP Biden did not pressure the Ukraine government to fire the prosecutor to stop him prosecuting Burisma, but because he was not prosecuting Burisma. In fact, he was not prosecuting anyone (as long as they paid in cash, gold or diamonds, large quantities of which were found in his office when he was removed.)

That's right. Biden was against corruption, not for it. This whole thing is just misinformation.

[Fatso]

I am getting a bit Grumpy with all this US Presidential crap .

[Milton477]

I am getting a bit Grumpy with all this US Presidential crap .

Me too. Can't believe a thing you read or hear. Always 3 sides to a story: One side, the other side & then the truth. The truth is hard to spot.

[4bee]

Me too. Can't believe a thing you read or hear. Always 3 sides to a story: One side, the other side & then the truth. The truth is hard to spot.

Me too, but the solution is quite simple 1. Mute Button.
2.On/Off switch

Works for me.