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    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    And this is why scientists should not be allowed to play god and manipulate and manufacture this **** in labs for their own gratification (because I can and I might win a Nobel Prize) and then have it escape. Try making advances in childhood cancers, all cancers! Why are nations still looking in to weaponising viruses and bacteria?? We have enough nuclear weapons to wipe out the earth in a flash (literally).

    Again, thanks China.
    Coronavirus has been with us for 20,000 years, or more. Don't think there were any labs around then.The virus was never made in a lab. Whether it escaped from a lab will, no doubt, be a topic in conspiracy theories on social media for ever more. From the Smithsonian.

    Over 20,000 Years Ago, a Coronavirus Epidemic Left Marks in Human DNA | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    all of those excellent ideas. but they all about distribution, not acquisition of the vaccine.
    and number 5 is violation of Nuremberg code 1947 and Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948
    Not sure if Nuremberg 1947 and Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948 allows people to expose others to known and foreseeable harm? Pretty sure flu vaccines are compulsory in several work areas?
    "Mandatory flu vaccination program" or "Requirement (3) (g)

    Minimisation of infection-related risks through implementing......

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    About to have a chat with the only person at work who has not been vaccinated. I provide my staff with Flu vaccines I pay for. Not sure of legal situation re a Covid vax refuser as it has not happened to me yet.

    Ethical and moral one is fairly easy I think.

    Fair work link gives the Do it or go a reasonable odds of passing muster - Just kidding they are rudly passing the buck to employers suggesting"
    Employers should get their own legal advice if:


    • they’re considering making coronavirus vaccinations mandatory in their workplace, or
    • they operate in a coronavirus high-risk environment (for example, health care or meat processing)"



    COVID-19 vaccinations: workplace rights & obligations - Fair Work Ombudsman | Fair Work Ombudsman - Coronavirus

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    Yes, and there are many thousands of known coronavirises and many more unknown.
    Just search 'Emerging viruses' - and prepare to be very scared.
    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Coronavirus has been with us for 20,000 years, or more. Don't think there were any labs around then.The virus was never made in a lab. Whether it escaped from a lab will, no doubt, be a topic in conspiracy theories on social media for ever more. From the Smithsonian.

    Over 20,000 Years Ago, a Coronavirus Epidemic Left Marks in Human DNA | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Not sure if Nuremberg 1947 and Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948 allows people to expose others to known and foreseeable harm? Pretty sure flu vaccines are compulsory in several work areas?
    "Mandatory flu vaccination program" or "Requirement (3) (g)

    Minimisation of infection-related risks through implementing......

    "

    About to have a chat with the only person at work who has not been vaccinated. I provide my staff with Flu vaccines I pay for. Not sure of legal situation re a Covid vax refuser as it has not happened to me yet.

    Ethical and moral one is fairly easy I think.

    Fair work link gives the Do it or go a reasonable odds of passing muster - Just kidding they are rudly passing the buck to employers suggesting"
    Employers should get their own legal advice if:


    • they’re considering making coronavirus vaccinations mandatory in their workplace, or
    • they operate in a coronavirus high-risk environment (for example, health care or meat processing)"



    COVID-19 vaccinations: workplace rights & obligations - Fair Work Ombudsman | Fair Work Ombudsman - Coronavirus
    I think you could mandate mandatory Covid vaccinations for employees just via your obligation to provide a safe worksplace for your staff, which of course flows on to protecting your "customers" as well.
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    Passing the buck eh Navy......nothing new there....a fairly typical response from a government organisation faced with a decision which will have future ramifications in both the legal and ethical areas.

    I was somewhat nonplussed watching our PM on TV yesterday. He stated that the various vaccination types and their allocated age groups was not a rule but a guideline. So I take this to mean I can now ignore the AZ and front for the Pfizer. Happy days.

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    Whatever you do, this is starting to look serious. One is an aged care worker, believed to be unvaccinated. However, the residents are vaccinated with Pfizer. Thank goodness.

    Concerns after NSW premier reveals half of 24 new Covid cases were in community while infectious (msn.com)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Coronavirus has been with us for 20,000 years, or more. Don't think there were any labs around then.The virus was never made in a lab. Whether it escaped from a lab will, no doubt, be a topic in conspiracy theories on social media for ever more. From the Smithsonian.

    Over 20,000 Years Ago, a Coronavirus Epidemic Left Marks in Human DNA | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine
    Yes, they've been around for millennia, mostly in animals. Do you really think that the Chinese weren't playing with this stuff? Manipulating it? Fiddling with it's genetics?

    "Let's see what happens if we do this. Oh **** that wasn't supposed to happen!"

    There is much speculation as to the origin of this particular virus. I was going to post some articles but for ever article that says it is not natural there is one that says it is. I guess we'll never know because the CCP will cover everything up and if the world gets too close to the truth there just may be an unexplained fire at the WIV.

    Here's a thought. If this is transferred from bats,....................STOP EATING BATS!!!!!

    Again, thanks China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Yes, and there are many thousands of known coronavirises and many more unknown.
    Just search 'Emerging viruses' - and prepare to be very scared.
    Scared? nonsense. AZ protects me.[ I hope ]
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    Yes, they've been around for millennia, mostly in animals. Do you really think that the Chinese weren't playing with this stuff? Manipulating it? Fiddling with it's genetics?

    "Let's see what happens if we do this. Oh **** that wasn't supposed to happen!"

    There is much speculation as to the origin of this particular virus. I was going to post some articles but for ever article that says it is not natural there is one that says it is. I guess we'll never know because the CCP will cover everything up and if the world gets too close to the truth there just may be an unexplained fire at the WIV.

    Here's a thought. If this is transferred from bats,....................STOP EATING BATS!!!!!

    Again, thanks China.
    I can understand how people could feel that way. But let's face it, the Chinese have a big target on their heads ATM. It's easy to point the finger at them. The way I see it, if they were trying to perfect a biological weapon, they have failed. Yes, clean up their live markets, goodness knows what you could catch from one of them [or perhaps we do] Shi Zhengli, the virologist at the centre of allegations speaks out.

    Shi Zhengli: Virologist at centre of China coronavirus origins questions (thenewdaily.com.au)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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