Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Eevo

to me thats acceptable. life isnt meant to be risk/death free.

my sister is living in the UK. she says its something they just live with and aust media is blowing it out of proportion for whats happening in other countries. no TP shortages there.

canada just lifted their lockdown. why? because they got below 400 cases a day. we're ****ting ourselves at 20 a day. admittedly, canada does have an excellent health system, which brings me to my next point


whats cheaper? investing in health services or having a lockdown.

I imagine it is easy enough for someone to speak of acceptable deaths unless and until it happens to them or their family or friends.

Cheers

The issue of Long Covid has been known for some time now. The Guardian had an article on it which was posted in Walrus. I'll post it here , it may be of interest to some one.

Damage to multiple organs recorded in 'long Covid' cases | Coronavirus | The Guardian

And here is a study of the medium term impact of Covid-19 on patients discharged from hospital.

New study reveals medium-term impact of COVID-19 — Nuffield Department of Clinical Neurosciences (ox.ac.uk)

And the UK NHS has 40 " long covid " clinics to tackle persistant symptoms

.EDIT As of November 2020, 60,000 people were thought to have Long Covid in the UK.

NHS England » NHS launches 40 ‘long COVID’ clinics to tackle persistent symptoms

There is a wealth of information to be found here:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) current situation and case numbers | Australian Government Department of Health

Originally Posted by ozscott

I imagine it is easy enough for someone to speak of acceptable deaths unless and until it happens to them or their family or friends.

Cheers

Here are the facts on the Canadian health system and covid-19.;

Canada's Government-Run Health Care System Crumbled under COVID-19 - Foundation for Economic Education (fee.org)

Originally Posted by Eevo

to me thats acceptable. life isnt meant to be risk/death free.

my sister is living in the UK. she says its something they just live with and aust media is blowing it out of proportion for whats happening in other countries. no TP shortages there.

canada just lifted their lockdown. why? because they got below 400 cases a day. we're ****ting ourselves at 20 a day. admittedly, canada does have an excellent health system, which brings me to my next point


whats cheaper? investing in health services or having a lockdown.

Originally Posted by ozscott

I imagine it is easy enough for someone to speak of acceptable deaths unless and until it happens to them or their family or friends.

Cheers

That was the message of the road safety ads where a man was asked what he considered to be an acceptable number of fatalities. He thought 70 would be OK until he was presented with his family being part of the 70.

Some people seem to be unconvinced about how serious exponential growth is.

What do you think should concern us most; a 50% increase in the rate of transmission or a 50% increase in the fatality rate?

This article crunches the numbers.

Why more transmissible variants of COVID-19 can be as worrisome as more deadly ones

In summary if we start with a round number of 1000 deaths, then after 30 days a 50% increase in transmission results in 4,185 more deaths. A 50% increase in fatality rate results in 317 more deaths after 30 days.

Those calculations are based on some fairly realistic assumptions and different assumptions would give different numbers. However, the message would still be the same.

Transmission doesn't sound as scary as death but we should be more concerned about transmission rates than many people seem to be. I am convinced that in some cases that is because people slept through the maths lesson where exponential growth was taught.