Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Fatso

Went to Woolies today to pick up some Vegies and had a look at the Dunny Roll section and low and behold not a single roll there , shelf completely MT .

It gets worse besides no Dunny Rolls all but a couple of rolls of Handy paper tidy towels have been stripped from the shelves .

And it gets even worser besides no Dunny Rolls and paper tidy towels all the boxes of Facial Tissues also gone .

I am at a complete loss to understand such mass hysteria over bloody Dunny Paper and other paper products in this Country . Although i can understand the facial Tissues being sort after, sort of .

Life is a lot Toilet Paper
Your either on a roll
or taking **** from someone .

All is good Mate.
Just because Some on this board are ****ting their pants about this new virus and Panicking without ANY regard for anyone else, I do believe that Sanity and our natural Empathy towards others will "Prevail"
Otherwise we are all ****ed

it pays to have a big name variety store manager as a neighbor...

Originally Posted by Saitch

From none other than the Guardian!
Health experts predicted an influenza death rate, in Australia, of 4,000 people for the 2019 'flu season. Why wasn't there panic then?

This article is more than 9 months old

Flu experts predict 4,000 Australians will die from influenza this year

Because Coronavirus is 10 to 40 times more lethal than influenza.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

Because Coronavirus is 10 to 40 times more lethal than influenza.

That is a HUGE call, Can you back that up with "Factual" data ??

Originally Posted by scarry

We haven't bought any toilet rolls for about 3 weeks.

So we need some soon,but if we go down the shops and manage to get some,i am sure some are going to point at us, and mumble,look at those idiots

Oh well,such is life.

I suggest you walk up & down the aisle looking all very nonchalant, hands in pockets & look like you don't give a flying ****, muttering to yourself, looking scornfully at the available **** paper, grudgingly grab what you need & saunter off. They'd be thinking "Wtf is wrong with the stack of paper they have just placed in their cart"?

It could work, Paul.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Wait till Chinese buyers cancel orders of our exports and refuse to pay the bills under a force majeure clause (that spelling may be wrong) about unforeseen circumstances, normally used in wars, then the effects will really hit our economy, which is already struggling. We are likely to go into recession.
If the virus kills 1% of global population (about 100 million) that will dwarf any war too.

Force majeure initially just permits suspension of contractual obligations, not termination. It also has to be made out and can be disputed by the other party. In which case you end up in court if the parties can’t agree an approach. Also depends on whose law the contract is under - I understand that force majeure is a principle of Chinese law so a contract governed by Chinese law likely doesn’t need to actually list it. However, most of our big commodities exports contracts would be under Australian, English or (in the case of LNG) New York law and would have clauses stipulating arbitration in a venue outside China - so the Chinese could, maybe, make a claim of force majeure, but it’d be contested. I only know of one Chinese entity that has claimed force majeure to date, notwithstanding that as of a couple of weeks ago there were a heap of LNG carriers waiting at Chinese ports to offload. What you need to consider is that the Chinese need our iron ore, coal and LNG, even moreso as they try to restart their economy. So, panic probably unnecessary.

Originally Posted by trout1105

That is a HUGE call, Can you back that up with "Factual" data ??

prompted me to go looking

current CDC reported stats are:

the flu in 2019 deaths per 100,000 infected people in USA = 2.0

covid19 reported deaths per 100,000 based on chinese / WHO stats worldwide = 2,600.0+

covid19 is a tad deadlier it seems....

Originally Posted by trout1105

That is a HUGE call, Can you back that up with "Factual" data ??

The death rate from influenza is about 0.1%. The current estimate for SARS-19 is 2% to 4% - last week WHO stated that it was 3.4%.

2% / 0.1 = 20
4% / 0.1 = 40

Hence, 20 to 40 times more lethal. WHO’s current estimate would be 34 times.

This information is readily available on the internet, I suggest that you do a search. For example:


“A case fatality rate of between 2% to 4% would be catastrophic, if the virus spreads widely and infects a lot of people. Even a case fatality rate of 0.7% — which means 7 out of every 1,000 infected people would die — is sobering. It is seven times the fatality rate for seasonal flu, which is estimated to kill between 290,000 and 650,000 people a year globally.”

New China coronavirus data buttress fears about high fatality rate - STAT

This is why all those people saying “oh, it’s just a flu” are kidding themselves.

BTW, the death rate for the infected who are over 80 years of age is over 18%. If you’re over 80 and infected those are not good odds.