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Sweden isn't doing well,they are saying they 'could have done better'

Brazil is in a lot of trouble,Amazon region is a worry for them as well.Huge problems in India and surrounding countries.

Starting in Africa,which will be a real worry.

I read they are going to open up the Aus universities to overseas students,date to be set soon.Thats going to be a huge issue for us here.
From what we have seen here,nearly all,or all,of the new cases here are people that have recently come in from overseas.

The risk of a 'second wave ' of infections is huge if international travel starts.

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Do they not have mandatory quarantined for people arriving from out of the country? Do like Iceland. Mandatory testing of everyone at their expense.

This was easier to pick than a broken nose. Given the set up of the 'Murican health system.

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Lucky he didn't have the machine that goes "ping".

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Originally Posted by Red90

Do they not have mandatory quarantined for people arriving from out of the country? Do like Iceland. Mandatory testing of everyone at their expense.

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That wasn't mentioned in the article,but i notice they do in Bali.

Yes,we need it here,and maybe if they get those sniffer dogs sorted,one of them as well to put over them.

But the best would be two tests,one at start of two week isolation,and one at end?

I think the isolation should also be at a hotel or somewhere similar,as 'self' isolating is not alway the best.

I am no medical expert,just my 2 cents worth..

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Originally Posted by Red90

Do they not have mandatory quarantined for people arriving from out of the country? Do like Iceland. Mandatory testing of everyone at their expense.

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Mandatory quarantine on a designated, secure hotel here for any OS arrival.
It sounds like they are tested on arrival, I have no idea what further testing is carried out.

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Originally Posted by vnx205

Is anyone else old enough to remember a TV show from the late 50s or early 60s that involved a duel between Wyatt Earp and someone else?

Earp had a revolver and the other bloke had a shotgun.

They both agreed to shoot at each other from about 50 or maybe even 100 metres. Both thought they were quite safe because the distance was well beyond the range of a shotgun and too far to expect to hit anything with a revolver.

While neither one hit the other, they both got a rude shock because the shotgun fired a solid slug (called a Brenneke slug, I think) and Earp's revolver was his long barrel Buntline Special, supposedly more accurate over longer distances than standard revolvers.

So the moral of the story is before you nominate the range, make sure you know what weapon or projectile you are facing.

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Wyatt Earp aka Hugh O'Brien snuffed it yesterday aged 91.


There was a Sea Scout Training Ship of that name moored at Outer Harbour in Adelaide.

Was ex-RAN & was sent to the Antarctic post war on an Expedition. Was also named STS Wongala.

Just sayin'

Why are we allowing possibly infected passengers to travel here THEN quarantining them once they are here?

Why not total medical clearance before they can catch an aeroplane to Australia?

It would be cheaper in the long run to test all travellers to Australia properly before they can travel than it is to quarantine them.

If they don't have a completely fresh certificate of health they don't travel. Fair enough isn't it?

This current government is prepared to spend more money stopping asylum seekers travelling by boat (not by air , mind you) than they are to totally stop covid19 infected passengers arriving by air.

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In the crime stats though, one group rates well above - thefts, cars, shop lifting, break ins. And when apprehended are treated with kid gloves. Same group has exclusive Dental, Medical, TAFE, training, clinical support that the others aren’t able to use. And free transport to anywhere at taxpayers expense.
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That would be the group who, by the standards of international law even in the 18th century, were dispossessed of their country. Without a treaty or compensation or any legal rights.

And do I need to catalogue the litany of abuses since then? I have a couple of textbooks in my room that list them, or I could point to the massacre maps or I could show you where on my bus route home from school massacres occurred. And massacres occurred in the NT in the 1920s, so it's not like it's ancient history.

I grew up in the country and i've been hearing rants like yours for decades now. Long on anger and short on facts or empathy.

Oh, and care to provide evidence of the "free transport to anywhere at taxpayers expense"?

The truth is that Australia, like the US, is having to live with the results of the abuses perpetrated by our ancestors.

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That would be the group who, by the standards of international law even in the 18th century, were dispossessed of their country. Without a treaty or compensation or any legal rights.

And do I need to catalogue the litany of abuses since then? I have a couple of textbooks in my room that list them, or I could point to the massacre maps or I could show you where on my bus route home from school massacres occurred. And massacres occurred in the NT in the 1920s, so it's not like it's ancient history.

I grew up in the country and i've been hearing rants like yours for decades now. Long on anger and short on facts or empathy.

Oh, and care to provide evidence of the "free transport to anywhere at taxpayers expense"?

The truth is that Australia, like the US, is having to live with the results of the abuses perpetrated by our ancestors.

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Much like most of Europe, much like the world over.
Even local factions went to war with one another, so there wasn’t a united front or harmony.

Empathy and the like won’t solve the problems. Nothing on my post is short on facts.

All the current attempts and those from decades past have done nothing but drive a wedge into the hearts of many nations.

The past is just that, and the ones driving the division are blatantly pushing the divide rather than closing it. A very good friend of mine is an Elder, a man proud of his heritage, and proud of his current country. He recognises me as much as an Australian as he is. His words, “you were born here right. It’s your history too.”

Would you like me to head to the local transport company and get their records? Or perhaps when the gathering at the APY lands are happening, the Coober Pedy Service station racking it up (fuel and goods) onto a government purchase order?

The request for me to dig up the info for you would indicate you have no clue about the levels of funding provided to some groups.

Even our local tv channel demonstrates the divide, multiple adverts for services only available to certain groups of people.

*Your* truth is that Australia is having to live with the result, the real truth is the attempts to hand everything to one group on a silver platter is making a rod for everyone’s back.

Side note: the 4 thieves that targeted all the vehicles in our street the other week then went to the local OTR and asked that they call them a Taxi - our taxi mob has a monthly government purchase order for Indigenous people wishing to use their service.
Not a bad deal. Commit break and enter, tamper with motor vehicles and theft and then a government funded ride home with the gear stolen....