Thread: Corona Virus

Another good source of data and the interpretation thereof.

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) – Statistics and Research

"Survival of the fittest"

Apparently medical facilities are told to push elderly to the back of the que to allow younger fitter people treatment first.

Not sure how i feel about this, although i did see it coming. Im good with "first in best dressed" but age based care? Worrying.

Earlier in this thread discrimination was brought up, i wonder if this same treatment is a form of discrimination against the elderly?

Originally Posted by Johndoe

"Survival of the fittest"

Apparently medical facilities are told to push elderly to the back of the que to allow younger fitter people treatment first.

Not sure how i feel about this, although i did see it coming. Im good with "first in best dressed" but age based care? Worrying.

Earlier in this thread discrimination was brought up, i wonder if this same treatment is a form of discrimination against the elderly?

Standard triage procedures. When overloaded, allocated resources to those most likely to survive. Something on the order of 30 to 50% of 80+ being admitted are dying despite their best efforts. Giving that one open ventilator to a 50 something has a higher chance of ending up with a live person at the end. It is all statistics. Not a fun job, but it is the reality.

Originally Posted by sashadidi

Fyi reasonably reliable (for Russia) indication that it is considering closing borders to non resident petmit holders which would impact tourism as such.
Turkmenistan had no cases apparently which is amazing....very poor tourism though..
Russian article here fyi
Осторожно, Россия закрывается – Мир – Коммерсантъ

Thank you!
My wife and I are very grateful to be getting information from you.

Steve

give it a few months and we should have herd immunitity as so many people will have had the virus. The histeria surrounding "another case" is lunacy. The damn virus is/will be everywhere If the majority of people that get it only have mild symptoms... they will not get tested... and will be un-aware they are spreading it. for every person found with the virus we probably have 1,000 that have it that doesn't realise.

Even people that are likely to have it aren't being tested as there isn't enough reagent in the world to test for it either way ( I work in healthcare IT .... the reagent we need is very scarce)

Australian health department says supply of key component in coronavirus testing under strain | World news | The Guardian

This is all quite fascinating to watch. And will probably be the first of several viruses in our lifetime. I wonder if we will learn from it.

seeya,
Shane L.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

the best information I've found is Michael Osterholm ( featured by JRE ). He is a virus transmission expert.

interesting and alarming that the much needed drugs are made in China and India. when they shut down we are vulnerable as there are no back up plans for supply.
Foreign national security would suggest in my opinion, that these countries would supply these drugs to themselves first during extreme shortage and the rest of the world could whistle dixie.

Originally Posted by Johndoe

"Survival of the fittest"

Apparently medical facilities are told to push elderly to the back of the que to allow younger fitter people treatment first.

Not sure how i feel about this, although i did see it coming. Im good with "first in best dressed" but age based care? Worrying.

Earlier in this thread discrimination was brought up, i wonder if this same treatment is a form of discrimination against the elderly?

I'm glad you included "fittest", so one would assume young addle headed Druggies would be excluded? Yes, I also think it is discrimination but there a slight chance I may be biased.

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