Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes it is, but at one of the first National Cabinet meetings the States agreed that they would do it for Covid with funding from the Commonwealth. The States did not have to sign up for it and if they did not want to do it then should have said no.

they decided to do it because the federal govt wasn't particularly interested and it would have been an utter ****show...

like most things related, the states dragged the feds along behind them kicking and screaming..

Originally Posted by 4bee

Yep, I see Andrews hasn't yet accepted the blame for 800 odd Victorians dying before Xmas.

The olde "Buck stops with me as Leader" wears a bit thin after a while but he doesn't proceed past that to....... "unless the **** hits the fan".

I'm sure he believes it will just fade away.

That's a big call. Not going to stir the pot, but the homes were a Federal responsibilty. Any way, any suggestion the virus in the early days had the same viral load as the UK & Sth African variants [ and perhaps a few others now] is clutching at straws in an attempt to deny there were failures in the system earlier on. Having said that, earlier on it was a steep learning curve, and mistakes were always going to be made, right from the beginning in NSW, and on. We are only now learning how dangerous these new variants are, and unless we keep on the ball, we'll be back to square one. The States and the Federal government need to be on the same page as far as the vaccine roll out goes, let's hope they can achieve that, at the very least.

Originally Posted by 4bee

Yep, I see Andrews hasn't yet accepted the blame for 800 odd Victorians dying before Xmas.

The olde "Buck stops with me as Leader" wears a bit thin after a while but he doesn't proceed past that to....... "unless the **** hits the fan".

I'm sure he believes it will just fade away.

Speaking of denial:

Aged care minister Richard Colbeck says he's not personally responsible for 700 Covid deaths | Aged care (Australia) | The Guardian

Scott Morrison defends aged care minister who didn't know number of Covid deaths | Aged care (Australia) | The Guardian

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I like.

Yeah me as well



Our gaff is a little later, just pre 1900 a bit. Local stone from their own & neighbor's Sand stone quarries. Walls straight as a die.
Apparently there were just three builders in this area at the time & they selected a bloke by the name of Williams who was supposedly the best. Seems pretty good to me. Not just the sand Stone walls, but also the Carpentry.


EDIT.
Hey tote, underneath that iron roof have you got, or had, Hardwood Shingles?





BTW. Thanks for the comments to my original post. It is always interesting to get the other side of reported News.

Originally Posted by incisor

they decided to do it because the federal govt wasn't particularly interested and it would have been an utter ****show...

like most things related, the states dragged the feds along behind them kicking and screaming..

This is a news grab from the ABC, which explains it fairly well, I believe.;

There are clearly strains in the system

In the past month or so, there have been several breakouts from the quarantine system, but they have been dealt with quickly and effectively.
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The protocols used in the hotel quarantine system itself have been consistently refined and upgraded.
But at the same time, the virus has become more transmissible, and there is more focus on the fact that the virus can be airborne — raising more questions about ventilation systems in quarantine facilities.
In the next few months, as key workers get vaccinated — including those working in quarantine facilities — that's also going to change the risk factors in the system, long before the rest of the population gets vaccinated.
And the Government is focusing on the fact that vaccination will reduce the risk of people getting really sick and dying from this virus, which once again changes the risk factors policymakers are considering.
But there are clearly strains in the system — not critical ones, but strains that go to jurisdictional questions, health issues, and capacity issues for the future.
Some states are pressing for more federal involvement in the quarantine system (it is its constitutional responsibility, after all) and it was significant that the Prime Minister on Friday seemed to acknowledge that by talking of ramping up the Commonwealth-run Howard Springs facility, and the possibility of running a bespoke new facility from Toowoomba.
Part of the reason for those pressures is that some states are feeling under strain to deliver the hotel quarantine system.
Other states like NSW are much happier being in control of their own systems, rather than letting a federal bureaucracy they don't completely trust do the job.

Some more on hotel quarantine; From the ABC news.

Critical steps must be taken to stop air circulating between rooms

A leading epidemiologist says it's critical to isolate the air circulating between rooms and corridors in hotel quarantine to avoid the spread of COVID-19.
The findings of an investigation into a cluster of the highly infectious UK strain at Brisbane's Grand Chancellor Hotel were released yesterday.
A number of recommendations were made, including changing processes around the movement of staff in hotel corridors.
Chair in Epidemiology at Deakin University Professor Catherine Bennett told ABC Radio Brisbane hallways are prime environments for transmission.
"If the corridor is a dead space and doesn't have good ventilation then the virus may stay suspended and spread along a corridor enough that someone metres away could potentially get an infecting dose so trying to keep the air isolated between the rooms and those shared corridor spaces I think is going to be a critical step," she said.

Originally Posted by bob10

Some more on hotel quarantine; From the ABC news.

Critical steps must be taken to stop air circulating between rooms

A leading epidemiologist says it's critical to isolate the air circulating between rooms and corridors in hotel quarantine to avoid the spread of COVID-19.
The findings of an investigation into a cluster of the highly infectious UK strain at Brisbane's Grand Chancellor Hotel were released yesterday.
A number of recommendations were made, including changing processes around the movement of staff in hotel corridors.
Chair in Epidemiology at Deakin University Professor Catherine Bennett told ABC Radio Brisbane hallways are prime environments for transmission.
"If the corridor is a dead space and doesn't have good ventilation then the virus may stay suspended and spread along a corridor enough that someone metres away could potentially get an infecting dose so trying to keep the air isolated between the rooms and those shared corridor spaces I think is going to be a critical step," she said.

The Singaporeans have been onto this for months - they had busses (for transporting suspected cases) with multiple sealed-off sections and each section with its own aircon.

Saw the AO Kia's driving around Melbourne this week with their windows down ...

Originally Posted by 4bee

Yeah me as well



Our gaff is a little later, just pre 1900 a bit. Local stone from their own & neighbor's Sand stone quarries. Walls straight as a die.
Apparently there were just three builders in this area at the time & they selected a bloke by the name of Williams who was supposedly the best. Seems pretty good to me. Not just the sand Stone walls, but also the Carpentry.


BTW. Thanks for the comments to my original post. It is always interesting to get the other side of reported News.

EDIT.
Hey tote, underneath that iron roof have you got, or had, Hardwood Shingles?

The original part of the house had shingles, the supporting slats are still there, the rest of the house that was added in the 1880s was always tin

Rathluba shingle roof1.jpg

Regards,
Tote