Corona Virus

**justinc** · 3rd March 2020, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by ChookD2

This virus is not strong enough. If every man, woman and child (or whatever you identify as) was to get this virus, approx 7.5+ billion, with a mortality rate of just 1 - 2% this would only lower the population by about 112 million. And it is taking too long.

We need a virus that will take out 3-4 billion and quickly. That would trim us down to about where we were just a short 70 years ago. This is the only way to fix the global problems of over population, pollution, unsustainable growth, Trump and Scotty.

Mother nature will sort us out in the end. But there are too many people on the planet now. It is predicted that the global population will settle somewhere around 11 billion before 2100. How will we feed, water, shelter, another 3 billion+??, particularly if we now see shortages of essentials like food and water. What will it be like over the next 60-70 years? At Australia's current population growth of 1.6%, in 40 years we will have over 40 million! We don't have enough water for the 25 million we have now. Most of you are saying "I won't be around, don't care", my/your grandchildren and great grandchildren will be.

We need a better virus/global catastrophe.

Yup, and as a weird conspiracy theorist point of view, the Covid-19 May well have been engineered... in a lab... for this very purpose....🧐

**JDNSW** · 3rd March 2020, 05:56 AM

This coronavirus is not "just another variety of flu". Yes, both are coronaviruses, but as others have commented, this is an additional disease added on to the flu season that is on its way.

A recent paper outlines the lethality of COVID19, using data of around 40,000 cases from China, and using the correct methodology of comparing deaths to recovered rather than total cases (with number of cases rapidly increasing, most cases have neither died nor recovered). The figures are interesting. http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article...b-fea8db1a8f51

Overall, the mortality rate is around 2%, as has been suggested (twenty times that of flu). But the rate varies markedly with age. There were no deaths among children under ten, but by age 60-69 the rate is 3.6%, 70-79 is 8% and 80+ is 13.8%.

For those of us who are getting a bit long in the tooth, these figures do give rise to concern!

**Eevo** · 3rd March 2020, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

This coronavirus is not "just another variety of flu". Yes, both are coronaviruses,

the flu (influenza) is not in the corona virus family.

**Johndoe** · 3rd March 2020, 06:54 AM

I am waiting for it to hit here in the valley. (Morwell)

Having such a high rate of ice users here i wonder.....

If you isolate a junkie they will come off the drug and withdraw. If that happens while they have this virus its likely they will die??

Immune system will be weak from there drug habits.

More importantly, no junkie around here would be put into isolation. They are way to selfish and self absorbed to care about the long term.

Could be a cleansing the world needed perhaps?

**bob10** · 3rd March 2020, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by justinc

Yup, and as a weird conspiracy theorist point of view, the Covid-19 May well have been engineered... in a lab... for this very purpose....🧐

Now you've done it.

**RobMichelle** · 3rd March 2020, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by bob10

Now you've done it.

Ah , justin started it

and I thought it was the Chinese prime minister giving trump the bird,

**bob10** · 3rd March 2020, 07:05 AM

The W.H.O. has designated the virus SARS-COV-2, and the disease that the virus causes COVID-19. If there's any good news, it's that children seem to get only a mild form of it. while elderly with other conditions can get very sick. The disease seems to be more prevalent in the 20-40 year age group. Might be time to load up the camper and sit beside a creek for a couple of weeks/ months.

**bob10** · 3rd March 2020, 07:29 AM

Coronavirus shut down clears the skies over China. Mother Earth may have had enough.

Coronavirus shutdown leads to clearer skies over China

**4bee** · 3rd March 2020, 07:39 AM

So, who is worried? Concerned, but not worried. Good personal hygiene & awareness will get us through this glitch in history.

Dr Des.

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Yup, and as a weird conspiracy theorist point of view, the Covid-19 May well have been engineered... in a lab... for this very purpose....

Look where it started. A good place to start I think.

**Red90** · 3rd March 2020, 07:53 AM

People that are saying it is like the flu and not any worse are either not looking or are purposely avoiding the facts.

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As it sits with the data available the case fatality rate is between 3085/90284 = 3.4% and 3085/45581 = 6.8%. You can argue about the numbers, but it means at least 3% of the cases will require hospital care. This will overrun the hospital care capacity to the point that care for other issues will need to fall causing a secondary death toll.

On average the annual flue case fatality rate is around 0.1% with a 5 to 15% population infection rate. If we reach even 5% infection rate and 2% death rate (best case) we are talking 7.7 million deaths. Worst case is 35 million.

The incubation period is quite long. It is looking like three weeks to recovery and there is evidence of being infectious for two to three weeks. The flu is a week at most.

15% of people with the disease show no symptoms. This means that carriers can not be found due to symptoms. The combination of these items has led most experts in the field to state that the disease can't be contained. It will spread regardless of prevention measures.

On a positive note, children seem to have a very low mortality rate. It only seems to kill adults.

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