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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    If it kills bacteria it probably inactivates viruses.
    How do you figure that? There is no connection between the two.

    Bacteria are single-celled, prokaryotic microorganisms that exist in abundance in both living hosts and in all areas of the planet (e.g., soil, water). By their nature, they can be either "good" (beneficial) or "bad" (harmful) for the health of plants, humans, and other animals that come into contact with them. A virus is acellular (has no cell structure) and requires a living host to survive; it causes illness in its host, which causes an immune response. Bacteria are alive, while scientists are not yet sure if viruses are living or nonliving; in general, they are considered to be nonliving.
    Infections caused by harmful bacteria can almost always be cured with antibiotics. While some viruses can be vaccinated against, most, such as HIVand the viruses which cause the common cold, are incurable, even if their symptoms can be treated, meaning the living host must have a strong enough immune system to survive the infection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Can someone explain to me the importance of 'bacterial hand sanitiser' in combatting a virus?
    Not only are alcohol-based hand sanitisers found to be effective at killing many types of bacteria, including MRSA and E coli, they’re also effective against many viruses, including the influenza A virus, rhinovirus, hepatitis A virus, HIV, and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV).

    Destroying viruses

    Alcohol attacks and destroys the envelope protein that surrounds some viruses, including coronaviruses. This protein is vital for a virus’s survival and multiplication. But a hand sanitiser needs to be at least 60% alcohol in order to kill most viruses.
    Hand sanitisers with less than 60% alcohol were also found to be less effective at killing bacteria and fungi and may only reduce the growth of germs rather than killing them outright.
    And even hand sanitisers containing 60% alcohol can’t remove all types of germs. Studies have found that hand washing is more effective than hand sanitisers at removing norovirus,
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    Yes, I'm told the sanitizer removes the coating and so it dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Can someone explain to me the importance of 'bacterial hand sanitiser' in combatting a virus?
    Some of the bacterial hand sanitisers are also effective against virus, but nobody makes a "virus hand sanitiser". It's really only the Chlorhex ones that are any good and frankly thorough washing is more effective than most of the pretend alcohol sanitisers for this particular threat.

    Chlorhex is pretty harsh on the skin with continued use though.

    Any hand hygiene is better than nothing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post

    You didn't answer the question.

    corona leaves the lungs open to other infections, such as bacteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    corona leaves the lungs open to other infections, such as bacteria.
    Yes, but that assumes that you have Covid-19. It doesn't explain the prevalence of AB wash everywhere to prevent infection with C-19, which was my question you still haven't answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Yes, but that assumes that you have Covid-19. It doesn't explain the prevalence of AB wash everywhere to prevent infection with C-19, which was my question you still haven't answered.

    your question was narrow minded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Not only are alcohol-based hand sanitisers found to be effective at killing many types of bacteria, including MRSA and E coli, they’re also effective against many viruses, including the influenza A virus, rhinovirus, hepatitis A virus, HIV, and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV).

    Destroying viruses

    Alcohol attacks and destroys the envelope protein that surrounds some viruses, including coronaviruses. This protein is vital for a virus’s survival and multiplication. But a hand sanitiser needs to be at least 60% alcohol in order to kill most viruses.
    Hand sanitisers with less than 60% alcohol were also found to be less effective at killing bacteria and fungi and may only reduce the growth of germs rather than killing them outright.
    And even hand sanitisers containing 60% alcohol can’t remove all types of germs. Studies have found that hand washing is more effective than hand sanitisers at removing norovirus,
    Great. So we should be showering in alcohol? Works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Yes, but that assumes that you have Covid-19. It doesn't explain the prevalence of AB wash everywhere to prevent infection with C-19, which was my question you still haven't answered.
    Think of it like training wheels. Supposedly some large proportion of blokes don't even wash their hands after going to the loo (and I've seen it a lot at large events). This might just be a case of "in sight and in mind" and help promote some hand hygiene.

    Or it could be a complete waste of time. It probably won't *hurt* though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    your question was narrow minded.
    Is that your way of saying 'specific'? Yet you still can't answer it.
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