Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Arapiles

As far as I am aware, we only use PCR.

There is an Australian company that recently developed a quick test but it's not available in Australia, presumably because it's not accurate enough.

The PCR test is not 100% accurate, according to another report. This advocates targeted testing as opposed to mass testing. I assume targeted testing is what we do.

False negatives and positives: how accurate are PCR tests for Covid-19? | The National (thenationalnews.com)

Originally Posted by Arapiles

As far as I am aware, we only use PCR.

There is an Australian company that recently developed a quick test but it's not available in Australia, presumably because it's not accurate enough.

Indonesia has just developed a blow in bag on a similar priciple to an alcohol test. They are not claiming 100% accuracy, but as the result only takes 2 minutes it helps sort out really active carriers from the millions in the population.

Originally Posted by Old Farang

Indonesia has just developed a blow in bag on a similar priciple to an alcohol test. They are not claiming 100% accuracy, but as the result only takes 2 minutes it helps sort out really active carriers from the millions in the population.

The story here;

Could a breathalyser help detect COVID-19? Indonesian scientists say they've developed one (msn.com)

See a new wave of the virus has reached Bangkok;

Thailand ramping up restrictions as new coronavirus outbreak spreads to Bangkok (msn.com)

Originally Posted by bob10

8 more cases in NSW. This caught my attention because of the fact that a BWS store is the focal point here. I buy my Grog from a Dan Murphy's at Kipparing, and not once have my details been taken. However I, like most others, have a Dan Murphy's card which is swiped on payment. I'm assuming this would be the contact data needed for tracing, with my details on the card. Much the same as a club. Hope so , any way.

NSW records eight new COVID-19 cases as Berala cluster grows (msn.com)

Here you are encouraged to scan in with a QR code in every place you walk into, even the supermarket.
They are everywhere now.
I don't think I've seen anyone scan in to the supermarket though.
Pubs, cafes, etc it's become regular behaviour.

The Berala BWS could be a huge event as it was a staff member who didn't realise they were contagious, and it was seeded by a patient transport worker, so it's not from the Avalon cluster.

Originally Posted by rick130

Here you are encouraged to scan in with a QR code in every place you walk into, even the supermarket.
They are everywhere now.
I don't think I've seen anyone scan in to the supermarket though.
Pubs, cafes, etc it's become regular behaviour.

The Berala BWS could be a huge event as it was a staff member who didn't realise they were contagious, and it was seeded by a patient transport worker, so it's not from the Avalon cluster.

The QR code is the sign in of choice up here now [ at least around our way] after the infamous donald duck incident. The pub has it on an I phone ? i think it is, those without up to date phones, of which there are a few, just enter their details manually.

Originally Posted by bob10

The story here;

Could a breathalyser help detect COVID-19? Indonesian scientists say they've developed one (msn.com)

See a new wave of the virus has reached Bangkok;

Thailand ramping up restrictions as new coronavirus outbreak spreads to Bangkok (msn.com)

When this started it was reported that Thailand incurred the first infection recorded outside of China. At that time the place was overrun with Chinese tourists. BUT; about the only advantage of being governed by a dictator is that he soon after declared a state of emergency and locked down the complete country.

No if or buts, or stupid females poking their long nose in or trying to gain brownie points. COMPLETE lockdown for EVERYBODY.
There was no toilet paper stampede, although there were some shortages, mostly imported food types of goods. There was a sudden shortage of eggs, but under threat of jail time, that soon returned to normal. The main point being that the control of the whole country was under one authority, like it or not.

Wearing of face masks was, and in most places, still is being enforced. They also put in place a phone tracing app, but it is less than useless.
Hundreds of thousand where put out of work virtually overnight, and although some attempt has been made to assist workers, there has not been anything like Australia has put in place. Inter province travel was banned for several weeks, and many people where unable to return either to their home provinces, or place of work.

The controls were effective, as shown by the number of "reported" infections and deaths, although figures are hard to prove. Out of a population approaching 70 Million the following is now claimed:

One more Covid-19 death, 216 new cases (bangkokpost.com)

One more death linked to Covid-19 and 216 new cases were reported on Saturday, bringing the total to 7,379 cases and 64 fatalities.

What has happen now is 100% traceable to people entering the country, both legally, but more so from a porous border difficult to control. They have now instigated several "zones" related to how many cases have been found in those areas.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

As far as I am aware, we only use PCR.

There is an Australian company that recently developed a quick test but it's not available in Australia, presumably because it's not accurate enough.

Hearsay:- "The TGA has yet to approve / deign to gaze there-upon and giveth Blessing... Yet is being sold overseas."

- I'll wait a couple of seconds for the above to be Fact-Checked...

To add some balance, stumbled across this site :- The "false-positive PCR" problem is not a problem - Virology Down Under Gotta give him a plug, being Ozzie...

Originally Posted by superquag

Hearsay:- "The TGA has yet to approve / deign to gaze there-upon and giveth Blessing... Yet is being sold overseas."

- I'll wait a couple of seconds for the above to be Fact-Checked...

To add some balance, stumbled across this site :- The "false-positive PCR" problem is not a problem - Virology Down Under Gotta give him a plug, being Ozzie...

I think I have commented earlier in this thread what this author points out towards the end of this paper - the fact that ,for example, NSW can carry out 20-30,000 tests and come up with only half a dozen positives, almost all of which can be linked to a chain of infection, and almost all of which are clinical cases, shows without doubt, that false positives are extremely rare. If they were not, we would be seeing hundreds of asymptomatic positives with no link to existing chains of infection. These simply do not exist.